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Partially depleted tanks and shells should probably not stack, but there should be a way (probably with a bench for cells) to combine partials. The sale price of cells should scale with their remaining charge. One neat side-effect of this would be the future possibility of weapon magazines for conventional weapons too. Would help with the enormous bulk (but not mass) of PKM ammunition and similar. Also, for energy cells, being able to recharge them is probably a good idea. They probably should degrade with recharging, with their capacity shrinking so they must eventually be replaced. |
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Perhaps this could be implemented by dynamically-changing a cell/tank's thingDef?:
The easiest way would probably be two bills - one to fully empty partials, and another to recharge/refill empty ones.
I'm not sure about this one - I guess it depends on how easy/hard it is to refill/recharge the cells/tanks.
Agreed!
This would be applicable with special calibers with fixed magazine size (e.g. PKM mags, M74 rockets in their customary 4-pack)
Definitely!
This will require a rethink of my current proposal, most likely requiring a standalone, explicit |
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That strikes me as more hassle than it's probably worth, honestly--for instance, there's nothing with conventional weapons that impacts the effectiveness of the ammo based upon its condition. |
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While it would certainly enable that, I definitely question the utility of going that direction. I don't see much benefit in having to manage magazines in addition to ammo--repacking magazines is really a level of detail we don't really need, I think. |
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@N7Huntsman @perkinslr - I've just rewritten the OP, please let me know if I'm missing anything.
I'm now sort of leaning towards Huntsman's thoughts on this - many weapons that share the same caliber often have different magazine sizes, so managing different magazines on top of the wide range of calibers probably makes for too much micromanagement. |
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The following is a revival/continuation of an existing discussion that took place on the old CE repository.
CE ammo currently comes in the form of discrete cartridges, shells or rockets, which typically used by various historical and modern firearms used in the game. These items individually have fixed mass and bulk, which are decremented from a pawn's inventory as ammunition is consumed.
However, many sci-fi and exotic weapons should more appropriately use ammo items that hold multiple shots:
Ideally, CE should implement power cells and fuel tanks as individual ammo items that contain multiple shots/fuel/power, while still being backwards compatible with the existing ammo system.
Features
ThingDef
Prior Attempts
Implementation
Existing and new
statBases
forCombatExtended.AmmoDef
to support multi-shot ammo items:Mass
Bulk
Capacity
MassLostPerShot
/MassLostPerUnitConsumed
BulkLostPerShot
/BulkLostPerUnitConsumed
DisplayAsPercentage
true
(shows %)false
(shows xxx/Capacity
)false
Rechargeable
true
(leaves behind empty cell/tank)false
(disappears from inventory)false
Fuel
Non-tangible resources (Electricity, Plasma)
AmmoUser
would also need to be modified to detect if the weapon's current ammo is of the cell/tank type, and consume it in the appropriate manner, while also displaying the capacity remaining in the pawn gizmo.Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
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