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Europa requested fixes #1379

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BlueHNT opened this issue Dec 28, 2024 · 13 comments
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Europa requested fixes #1379

BlueHNT opened this issue Dec 28, 2024 · 13 comments
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@BlueHNT
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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

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So... Europa is out and it's pretty neat, but as engineer it's a nightmare.

Gonna list 'em out and it's gonna be a long one.

  1. The SM Issues
    So beginning with the whole issue that the passive cooling is useless is one thing as the planet has roughly 80-90°C and that won't work for the passive cooling AT ALL. I can manually fix it by closing it off with a buncha heaters, but normal people won't even notice it.
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On top of that, all engineering equipment is hidden in the SM room which is a bloody nightmare. You gotta pass by and lose your birthrights to even get your hardsuit.
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Not to mention the nonsensical lockup of random equipment that doesn't even matter and a few tesla coils.
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  1. The Atmos and their issues
    Oh boy the atmos, first of all it comes prepared already in it's tight packaged corner while at the same time missing all the features a regular atmos would need for this size of map. It even comes pre-made in a mega simple way, which means 90% of Atmos techs will just run some air and fuck off.
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Next up the miner for Plasma and N2O is outright missing! Meaning you can't make tritium for engine, build TEG or make any normal SM mix.
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The little place for dedicated SM use is cute however.
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Oh and roundstart the mixer chamber is missing Blast Doors to outside to vent your used mixes, while also missing the button for the already existing Blastdoor which however features a gracious tinyfan below it.
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Additionally the map is also missing atmos techs hardsuits, meaning they can't fight fire even if they wanted with the non-pressure resistant fire suits they got.
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  1. Tcomms?
    Another issue I can see brewing is that all of engineering has full access to the TCOMMs which is bound to make no issues at all when a single antag in the department happens.
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  2. Impossible backup power
    So it seems you chose material generators as a backup for the station, which makes it near impossible to run if a first time engineer tries booting up SM or forgoes it entirely as they don't understand what they're doing. At least the mats are generous?
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You could alternativelly expand on atmosia and give them a TEG.

Additonal notes:

There is definitely more issues than I just listed, but this is top of my head all that I could find in the span of this one round I went and tested things.

Off-note, what's happening with the whole permabrig being hidden behind sec right next to clown's room? The heck?

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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

Just tried to log my character off and couldn't find cryo-room... Is there... None?!

@Merrokitsune
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Did you try setting the spawn settings to “cryopods” and see?

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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

Did you try setting the spawn settings to “cryopods” and see?

Yes, not only did I end up NOT on the station. I also then went into adminghost and tried searching for them manually, but the map has no markers...

but they don't exist, not even in medbay!
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@sleepyyapril
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Just tried to log my character off and couldn't find cryo-room... Is there... None?!

There is no cryo and I'll be removing Europa from rotation until this is solved, if TCJ agrees.

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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

Europa has the potential, but it has a lot of kinks atm.

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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

Turns out there's also plenty of rooms without air vents like in command? It might be a safety measure, but it does kind of ruin the room after 30 minutes in the shift.

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or in this case, it's just a fuckup.

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scrubber-line setup to a vent.

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Let me do a quick check

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BlueHNT commented Dec 28, 2024

Atmos techs are also missing the piping network computer which is on Goobstation and similar, would really help this tbh.

@Mike32oz
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fun both air/waste distro are connected together.

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APC missing at Sophia/oracle
Screenshot 2024-12-28 055208

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Mantis room has no air alarm/APC and no pipe air/waste
Screenshot 2024-12-28 055435

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found cryogenic at prison
Screenshot 2024-12-28 060148

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Ichaie commented Dec 28, 2024

The map is full of errors and issues, this is largely due to it being a very old map, which had several errors that were not corrected when I ported it, the rework I did was more to be temporary until I create a better layout in SM, there were some things missing but I can fix it very quickly, but not now because I'm focusing on another map currently unrelated to EE.

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