Always on circuits breaker issue

[cjflask]

I was noticing the breaker entity for the circuit with my router was not showing up in Home Assistant, but every other breaker entity was there. The other entities for that circuit was present (e.g. Power, Energy consumed, etc). I went into Span settings and noted that circuit ws dedicated as always on. When I toggled it, the breaker entity began to show up in Home Assistant after rescanning the integration.

[gdgib]

@cjflask that's a deliberate decision, since span won't let us control that circuit anyway. I notice you didn't explicitly ask for anything to be changed, however, so maybe we just need to update some documentation. @cjflask can you clarify what you're hoping we might do or change about the situation given that we certainly can't turn on and off circuits that span won't let us?

[cayossarian]

It may be that once you define a circuit in the SPAN app that allows SPAN to shed those circuits the circuit may no longer be considered 'user managed'. A bit like solar lugs but could be if you remove the circuit from the SPAN shedding in the span app, the circuit may again be user manageable. Solar lugs are not user configurable as SPAN mothership does not relinquish control of changes made by a partner electrician.

[gdgib]

I tested, FWIW, and setting a circuit back to user managed does indeed allow us to control it again. But yeah, if the circuit is "always on" then we can't control it, by design.

I think we leave this open a bit longer to see if we get user feedback on what @cjflask is hoping we can help with, but if I don't see a comment sometime soon let's close this. We can always re-open it if and when we understand the request better.