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Can PROPN have feature Case=Voc? #11

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AngledLuffa opened this issue Dec 7, 2024 · 4 comments
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Can PROPN have feature Case=Voc? #11

AngledLuffa opened this issue Dec 7, 2024 · 4 comments

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@AngledLuffa
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NOUN has a possible feature Case=Voc

however, there are no examples of it in any of the files

This leads to a couple questions:

  • is this actually a feature that can apply to NOUN? If not, we should just remove it from the validation script and Kili
  • if this can occur on NOUN, can we add an example of it so the model might learn it and the annotators can look for it in sentences?
  • also, if it can occur in NOUN, can it also apply PROPN
@dan-zeman
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  • is this actually a feature that can apply to NOUN?

Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhi_language#Nouns

@AngledLuffa
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neat, ty. since we have a file of handpicked sentences which contain various example features, it might be worthwhile to add sentences to that file which have this feature for NOUN and if possible PROPN as well

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rueter commented Dec 7, 2024

neat, ty. since we have a file of handpicked sentences which contain various example features, it might be worthwhile to add sentences to that file which have this feature for NOUN and if possible PROPN as well

Hi,
If you look at languages with regular morphology, such as demostrated in Latvian-LVTB, you will find that the Case=Voc is appears with NOUN and ADJ, e.g.,
sent_id = a-d208-p230s4
and definitely PROPN
sent_id = a-d60-p214s1
@lauma can you enlighten us a little more on what UPOS can take the feature «Case=Voc», please.

@dan-zeman
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neat, ty. since we have a file of handpicked sentences which contain various example features, it might be worthwhile to add sentences to that file which have this feature for NOUN and if possible PROPN as well

Hi, If you look at languages with regular morphology, such as demostrated in Latvian-LVTB, you will find that the Case=Voc is appears with NOUN and ADJ, e.g., sent_id = a-d208-p230s4 and definitely PROPN sent_id = a-d60-p214s1 @lauma can you enlighten us a little more on what UPOS can take the feature «Case=Voc», please.

Well, Slavic languages have it too, but I did not bring it up because there is no reason why it should be the same in Sindhi. (In Czech we have Case=Voc theoretically available for all parts of speech that allow the Case feature (NOUN, PROPN, PRON, DET, ADJ, NUM), but it has really distinct forms only for NOUN and PROPN.)

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