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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
F R E Q U E N T L Y A X E D Q U E S T I O N S
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to Johann Miranda ([email protected]) for his
help in maintainig this FAQ.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Warning: Some of the things below are terribly outdated. Tha
manual page, though, is always up-to-date.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How can I obtain Seyon?
A: Well, the best way is to ftp to one of the following sites:
sipb.mit.edu:/pub/seyon
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib
nic.funet.fi
sunsite.unc.edu
The *newes* version of Seyon can be found at sipb.mit.edu. Beta
versions can also found at:
sipb.mit.edu:/pub/seyon
and context diffs against previous versions at:
sipb.mit.edu:/pub/seyon/DIFFS
You may have to hunt around in other sites to find the most recent
release.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How do I build and install Seyon?
A: Seyon comes with a file called 1-INSTALL, which basically tells you
what you need to do to install it. You should also create a
directory with the name ".seyon" in your home directory. Copy the
files ``startup'', ``phonelist'' and ``startup'' to this directory
(the make file will probably do that automatically for you) and
edit them to your heart's content; or better yet, run Seyon and
modify these these files from the command center. Once you have
installed Seyon, you may wish to browse through the man page, it is
complete and up-to-date.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How do I use Seyon?
This is easy. After installation, just type "seyon -modems
<modem-device> &" to invoke Seyon. From the command center you can
set up your modem parameters, line parameters, scripts, phone
numbers, transfer protocols, to wit anything you are likely to
need. Afterwards, customaize Seyon to your needs by putting the
appropriate resources in your ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults file
(at least to avoid typing the -modems switch every time).
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: Where can I send bug reports and suggestions? Where can I get more
information about the development and use of Seyon? Where can I
participate in general discussions about Seyon? Where can I get the
most up-to-date announcements about official and test releases?
A: Join the Seyon mailing list. Send a message to
with the following as one of the headers:
X-Mn-Admin: join Seyon
That should do it. To get more information about how to use the
mailing list and send to it, send a message to the above address
with the single word ``help'' as the subject and the body of the
message.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: Yesterday I compiled Seyon 2.12, however when I tried to run it,
it gave me "Dial Arborted: Online". So I hangup first, the message
now is "Line disconnected", then I dialed again, still "online".
I quit and run kermit immediately and it works fine. This 'Online'
problem happens even I hard-boot my system and run seyon at once.
Has anybody have the same experience ? Any help will be appreciated.
A: Seyon is smarter that kermit (well, at least it tries to). Before
dialing a number, Seyon first checks to see if the modem is already
on-line. It does so by querying the status of the DCD flag (Data
Carrier Detect). If DCD is asserted, Seyon concludes that the modem is
on-line and refuses to dial the number.
Two resources govern this behavior. The first is hangupBeforeDial. If
this resource is enabled (set to ``on'') and DCD is asserted, Seyon
hangs up the line before dialing. The second is ignoreModemDCD. If
this resource is enabled, Seyon ignores the status of DCD and 1)
always hangs up befoe dialing if hangupBeforeDial is enabled, and 2)
proceeds to dial even if DCD is asserted.
In your case I think that your modem is asserting DCD all the time,
even if the modem is off-line. When dialing, Seyon finds that DCD is
asserted and hangs up. However, after hanging up, it finds that DCD is
still asserted, and since the default for ignoreModemDCD is ``off'',
it refuses to dial.
To fix that, you have two options. The first is to tell your modem not
to assert DCD all the time. The command for that in my modem is
``AT&C1'' (AT&C0 does the opposite), but might be different in yours.
If you don't wish to do that, set the resource ignoreModemDCD to
``on''. This way Seyon will ignore DCD and behave just like kermit. To
set the resource, put the line:
Seyon.ignoreModemDCD: on
in your ~/.Xresource file.
The on-line clock at the top left corner of Seyon's command center
will tell you whether DCD is asserted (clock running, button light or
depressed) or not (clock not running, button dark or raised). The
manual has more details and explanations of the above resources.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: I get the messages
>> Warning: could not execute 'seyon-emu'.
>> Warning: falling to 'xterm'.
when I start Seyon.
A: When Seyon s invoked. It looks first for seyon-emu and uses it as
the terminal emulator. seyon-emu has to be a link to you favorite
terminal emulation program (xterm, color xterm, xvt, mterm, Emu,
cmdtool, ..etc). This allows for more flexibility in choosing the
terminal emulator. If Seyon doesn't find seyon-emu, it just uses
xterm as the terminal emulator. This warning is harmless. To get
rid of it, make seyon-emu a link to xterm.
Q: How do I use the meta (ALT) key with Seyon?
A: If the remote host supports 8-bit-clean communications, you should
be able to use it automatically (most hosts don't). Otherwise, you
can make Seyon send ESC before a character when the meta key is
pressed with that character. You can do that in two ways:
1) Set Meta->ESC translation to ``on'' using one of the following:
a) the resource metaKeyTranslation
b) from the ``Set'' console
c) in a script: ``set meta_tr on''
2) if you're using xterm as Seyon's terminal emulator, use
Seyon.vt100.eightBitInput: off
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: When I dial, the modem says CONNECT and I get a Connection Complete
message. To wake the remote host up, I first hit Enter a few times.
But the host soon hangs up, apparently seeing a dead line. What's
wrong?
A: Try setting <nl mode> in the Set console. The Seyon default is to
send a \n when you press Enter. Many hosts expect a \r; you get
that when <nl mode> is selected.
(contributed by Sakari Aaltonen, <[email protected]>)
NOTE: starting from version 1.5, the defaults is to enable NL->CR
translation.
=======================================
Q: In the 'Set' console, which color means that the parameter is
active?
A: Black means active, otherwise inactive.
=======================================
Q: How do I send an initialization string to my modem.
A: put the command
transmit "AT(whatever)^M"
in Seyon's startup file. Most modern modems do not need an
initialization string though, since they store their setup in
non-volitile memory.
=======================================
Q: How do I tell the remote host about the size of my terminal window?
I want the applications to take advantage of the lerger size.
A: If the remote host is a Unix machine (or any other machine that
supports X-windows), issue the command 'resize' (if that doesn't
help, try 'eval `resize`'. If the remote host is a BBS, set the
page length by the appropriate command (e.g. 'p' on a BBS running
PCBoard).
=======================================
Q: What's this Xdefaults file you keep talking about?
A: It is usually named ~/.Xresources. If that doesn't exist. the
Xserver uses the file ~/.Xdefaults. Do 'man X' to learn how to
customize the resources in this file.
=======================================
Q: When I use 'Edit' to edit the phonelist or protocols files, the
dialing directory and the transfer console do not reflect the
changes I made, what's wrong?
A: You have to use 'Reread' to update the the dialing directory and
the transfer console.
=======================================
Q: How do I make sz/rz work?
A: The following is from the readme file included with minicom. I used
it, and it has always worked for me:
If you are using a new version if Chuch Forsenberg's zmodem, it is
possible that it will not run OK in a window. This is because the
new versions *don't* use stdin and stdout, but without mercy they
just open /dev/tty. Ai! I changed the following in the file
"rbsb.c" and now things work allright. You might want to change
this also. Here is the particular function I'm talking about:
---------------------------------------
/* Line 336 */
/* Initialize tty device for serial
file xfer */
inittty()
{
#ifndef HVM
Tty = open("/dev/tty", 2);
if (Tty < 0) {
perror("/dev/tty"); exit(2);
}
#else
Tty = 1;
#endif
Ttystream = fdopen(Tty, "w");
setbuf(Ttystream, xXbuf);
}
---------------------------------------
And to get the Logging output to the
screen instead of to /tmp/szlog,
change the following in sz.c :
---------------------------------------
if (npats < 1 && !Command && !Test)
usage();
if (Verbose) {
/* Line 403 of sz.c */
#ifndef HVM
if (freopen(LOGFILE, "a", stderr)==NULL) {
printf("Can't open log file %s\n",LOGFILE);
exit(2);
}
#endif
setbuf(stderr, NULL);
}
vfile("%s %s for %s\n", Progname, VERSION, OS);
---------------------------------------
You might want to change the same in the file "rz.c" also, around
line 249. It is now possible to use the -v[vv] flag with rz/sz and
see the debugging output appear in the status window!
You have to define 'HVM' to make the change effective, ofcourse!
NOTE (for Seyon users): Once you have done that, use '$rz -vv' as
your zmodem command (or '$sz -vv').
=======================================
Q: What are Seyon's configuration files? and where should they be put?
A: Those are 'startup', 'phonelist', and 'protocols'. Seyon looks for
them in the current directory, then the default Seyon directory
('~/.seyon'), and finally in the user's home directory. The names
of these files as well as that of the default directory can be
overridden by setting the appropriate resources. Refer to that in
another answer somewhere in this file.
=======================================
Q: Can I put the scripts somewhere else other than in my home
directory?
A: Yes, use the resource
Seyon.scriptDirectory:
(default is defaultDirectory). Seyon will look for scripts in the
current directory, then in the script directory, and finally in the
user's home directory.
=======================================
Q: I'd like to start a local shell but I don't want to start another
xterm, can I have a shell in the Seyon's terminal emulation window?
A: Yes, click the 'Shell' button and instead of giving it a usual
shell command, use the name of your shell (i.e. tcsh, sh, ..etc).
This will start the shell of your choice in the terminal window.
=======================================
Q: Do I have to specify the BITS and BPS fileds for each entry in the
phonelist directory?
A: No. Seyon will use the default BPS rate and bit mask if none is
specified in the phonelist entry.
=======================================
Q: Can I specify an alternate location and name for the help file?
A: You can, but it's highly discouraged unless you have no write
permission to the default location (determined automatically at
compile-time). Use the resource
Seyon.helpFile:
You have to specify the complete file path and name.
=======================================
Q: Seyon comes up tiny and with overlapping buttons, what's wrong?
A: The app-defaults file must be installed properly or Seyon will not
function properly. Use 'make install' to install the app-defaults
file in the proper place and make sure it is installed properly and
is not corrupt.
=======================================
Q: I get 'killed by siganl 11' when I start seyon.
A: You must be using old versions of libraraies. Test that by using
ldd seyon-cmd
This will tell you what libraries you have linked Seyon with. If
you get anything other than
/lib/XawVen.so.2.1 (Classic 2.1)
/lib/libX11.so.2.1 (Classic 2.1)
/lib/libc.so.4 (Jump table 4.1)
it's time to upgrade to newer libraries.
(This question is for linux only, for platforms it may be a bug.
Report it.)
=======================================
Q: How does the dialer work?
A: Click on an item to toggles it. Once you have selected all the
items you want, click on 'Go'. The dialer will dial each number
until a connection is made. once a connection is made, that item is
unselected automatically. Double-clicking on an item will select
that item, unselect all others, and dial that item. You can
interrupt the dialing or the script execution at any time by
chossing 'Cancel'. 'Can. & hangup' will additionally hangup the
line.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How do I use pulse dialing?
A: Use the resources. Set
Seyon.dialPrefix: ATDP
There is also a simialr resource: dialSuffix.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How can I setup the ZMODEM autodownload feature or disable it?
THIS ANSWER IS WRONG, READ THE MANUAL
A: Via the resources. The resource
Seyon.zmodemAutoDownload: off
will disable it (default is 'on'). The resource
Seyon.zmodemAutoDownloadCommand: $cd /usr/dl; rz -vv
tells Seyon what command to use to for ZMODEM (default is 'rz').
The format of the command is the same as that of the shell and
transfer commands.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: Does Seyon support the V32 protocol?
A: V32 is not a software protocol, it is used at the hardware level by
the modem to communicate with modems at the remote end. Hence, it
is transparent to comm programs, and they have nothing to do with
it.
This is along the lines of "your modem will talk to my modem at the
best speed and level they can. How yor modem talks to your computer
is your business" (See above)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How do I turn off the 'fun' messages or make them less frequent?
A: The resource
Seyon.showFunMessages: off
will turn them off (default is 'on'). The resource
Seyon.funMessagesInterval: 30
specifies that the messages should appear every 15 seconds (unless
Seyon has something more important to say, like a real message).
Default interval is 1 minute.
=======================================
Q: How can tell seyon what port to use?
A: There are two ways to do that:
1) Specify it in your Xdefaults file, something like:
Seyon.modems: /dev/ttys0
2) Invoke Seyon by the the switch -modems, e.g.
seyon -modems /dev/ttys0
=======================================
Q: How can I control the bahavior of the terminal emulation winow?
A: You can do that via the resources of the vt100 widget of xterm. he
following is an example of what you can put in your Xdefaults file:
Seyon.vt100.foreground: black
Seyon.vt100.background: white
Seyon.vt100.geometry: 80x25+50+250
Seyon.vt100.saveLines: 100
.
.
.
Refer to the xterm manual page for the full set of the resources.
=======================================
Q: The resourecs I put in my Xdefaults file do not seem to work, why?
A: You have to use xrdb to load the resourecs or restart your X
server. Also, you have to use the class name 'Seyon' and not the
instance 'seyon' in your Xdefaults file.
=======================================
Q: How shoud the protocols file be formatted?
A: Here is an example:
regu_zm_dl "$ cd /dl; rz -vv" n
"reg zm ul" "$sz -vv" y
graphic_zm_dl grz No
xrz3D $cd /dl; xrz" NO
The first field is the title of the protocol. You can anything in
there for your refrence as long as it is either one word or quoted.
The second field is the actual command that will be executed.
Again,if the command is more than one word, it has to be quoted.
Notice how 'cd' is used to have one or more download or upload
directories. If the command begins with '$', the standard input and
standard outpt will be redirected to the modem.
The last field tells Seyon whether it should prompt for a file name
or not. this field can be either a yes or a no. Normally, you would
put yes for an upload and no otherwise.
=======================================
Q: How can tell Seyon about the non-standard responses of my modem?
A: Use the following resources:
Seyon.connectString
Seyon.noConnectString1
Seyon.noConnectString2
Seyon.noConnectString3
Seyon.noConnectString4
Refer to what the defaults are for these resources in another
answer in this file.
=======================================
Q: When I choose an item in the dialing direcory or from the transfer
protocols directory it get highlighted but nothing happens, why?
A: Clicking once on an item only highlightes it. You have to
double-click on it to choose it. You can highlight multiple items
in the dialing directory and then click 'Go' to dial them
(circulate) until a connection is made.
=======================================
Q: How can I control the dialer behavior?
A: Via the following resources:
Seyon.dialTimeOut
Seyon.dialDelay
Seyon.dialRepeat
Dial timeout is the time given for each try (default is 45
seconds), dial delay is the time between tries (default is 10
seconds), and dial repeat is the number of tries Seyon attempts
before up (default is 5 seconss).
=======================================
Q: How can disable the confirmation popups for hangup and exit?
A: Via the resources hangupConfirm and exitConfirm. Put the following
in your Xdefaults file:
Seyon.hangupConfirm: off
Seyon.exitConfirm: off
=======================================
Q: What do I do if the terminal is stuck?
A: Choose 'Refresh' under the 'Misc' button. This will restart the
terminal process (not the terminal window).
=======================================
Q: How can I use hardware flow control (RTS/CTS)?
A: Use the rtscts mode. It is enabled by default. You disable it in
the startup file, in a script, or interactively from the 'Set'
console.
=======================================
Q: How can I make Seyon send delete instead of backspace?
A: Put the line
set del "on"
in the startup file or in the script. or set the parameter
interactively by the 'Set' button.
=======================================
Q: Can Seyon do ANSI color that most BBS systems use?
A: Yes, but yu have to get color xterm. Patches for that are on
export.lcs.mit.edu.
=======================================
Q: Where can I get the latest copy of Seyon?
A: By ftp from sipb.mit.edu at the directory /pub/seyon.
=======================================
Q: How can I help?
A: 1) Send your impression of he program after each upgrade.
2) Send suggestions for improvement (even the little details).
3) Send any pretty color customization you do.
4) If you implement an extra feature, send it to be included in the
standard release.
=======================================
Q: How can I send bug reports?
A: Use the form included in the file BUGS. If you don't, I cannot
guarantee that I'm going to look into it. Sending me something like
'the dialer doesn't work' doesn't tell anything. I have to know
more.
=======================================
Q: How can I contact the author?
A: Send him (that's me!) email at [email protected]
=======================================