Question about politeness in English AMR

[luciaelizabeth]

How would you annotate a sentence like "Would you be so kind as to shut up, Sir?" in terms of politeness? :polite + , given the formal nature of request and the "Sir"? Or would there be no :polite annotation given the content?

[nschneid]

Based on the examples at https://www.isi.edu/~ulf/amr/lib/amr-dict.html#:polite, I would use :polite +.

[jbonn]

Too bad it can't be both :polite + and :polite -! (Too bad we don't have a :polite - entailment inside the 'shut-up' lexical file. That would make me feel better about it.)

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[nschneid]

I guess if it's sarcastic politeness, and is actually rude, then it would be :polite -! When there is a clear pragmatic divergence from the semantics AMR goes with the pragmatics.