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Can you please open source the latest version of https://earth.nullschool.net/ people need it ! #144

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AaronNGray opened this issue Nov 25, 2024 · 14 comments

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@AaronNGray
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@cambecc Can you please open source the latest version of https://earth.nullschool.net/ people need it !

I need to be able to do animations from it to video and also add extra data sources and a 3D view of weather systems.

Its WebPacked so reverse engineering it is a nightmare !!!

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vazome commented Jan 19, 2025

Bump

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@cambecc why the silence on issues ?

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cambecc commented Jan 21, 2025

I've been silent because I thought the state of the repo was clear: frozen in time for posterity.

I forked earth.nullschool.net from this codebase in 2015 and have no plans to merge back. I have been thinking to refactor this repo at some point to make it more generic and componentized, like you proposed in #143, but that idea remains on the back burner for now.

You're welcome to hack away at your own fork of this repo, but the code currently running at earth.nullschool.net is intentionally closed.

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Thank you for replying. Would you please enlighten the unenlightened as to the reason that earth.nullschool.net code is not open source as we have a climate emergency and data and new representations and recording of of these resources are of primary concern to the climate change community as a whole.

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vazome commented Jan 21, 2025

@cambecc Firstly, thank you for the project and keeping both the website available and the feedback form.

One thing I don't understand is the mission. Here you have the legacy code readily available and at the same time the website is free-to-use which is based on the up-to-date closed source version. Considering you have been keeping it at this state for a while now, the mission is to give the world a useful and well-designed tool for environmental monitoring... exclusively on your platform. Ergo, it raises the bus factor concern; could the website continue to live in the event of your prolonged/ultimate absence?

Unless you plan to commercialize the project, the closed source code falling under certain NDA, or it violates the license of certain software... I cannot rationalize the reason behind keeping it non-public and maintaining free-to-use website.

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tdarlic commented Jan 21, 2025

@vazome @AaronNGray
The guy has frozen the repo on purpose and you are trying to bully him into opening it. @cambecc does not need to rationalize his decision. If the website does not continue to live it is his sole decision as the author of the code. Either write the code yourself or pay him or someone else to do that for you.
I'm very thankful for this code and I learned a lot from this repo a while ago and used that knowledge to develop my own solutions. You are free to do that as well...

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Agree with @tdarlic
@cambecc doesn't owe anyone anything and he's made his position clear

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vazome commented Jan 21, 2025

@tdarlic I agree, at the end of the day they are the sole owner and creator. This project has also inspired me to do something data visualization related. It's just rare for me to come across their line of reasoning, so it seems only natural to ask for their perspective.

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@cambecc @tdarlic THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. I dont know whether you are aware but the current state of play with the climate change situation and that it is near enough in a terminal state with regard to maintaining higher life on this planet. We have a very very small window left inwhich to perform action. I have studied climate change on a near enough daily basis rather than doing software engineering.

I am a systems programmer and computer language researcher and designer and have studied the whole of the history of Type Theory in order to research the implmentation of my next generation language. I am not a graphics programmer despite knowing the theory from years ago doing vector based near realtime graphics of the globe is not something I would attempt to work on, and I don;t have time.

We seriously need the instrumentation in place in order to know what is happening in the atmosphere in order to do a real time 24/7/52 climate and weather report on the internet. This is the best visualization system I have seen and use, and it could be so much more. What I am saying is if this is properly open sourced it would be picked up and worked on and extended by multiple programmers in service to climate experts requirements and would spawn a vitally needed ecosystem.

If you are a climate change denier for vested or capitalistic reasons or acting like an osrtich or a lemming and want to become a dodo then thats your problem please dont make it mine. This situation is serious !

What follows is a list of climate change scientific papers and reports for your perusal.

"The 2024 State of the Climate Report: Perilous Times on Planet Earth"
Authors: William J. Ripple, Christopher Wolf, Jillian W. Gregg, Johan Rockström, Michael E. Mann
Journal: BioScience
Publication Date: October 8, 2024
DOI: 10.1093/biosci/biad080
Summary: This comprehensive report analyzes the latest trends in various planetary vital signs and reviews notable recent climate-related disasters, highlighting the urgent need for action to address climate change.

"Overconfidence in Climate Overshoot"
Authors: Carl-Friedrich Schleussner, Gaurav Ganti, Quentin Lejeune, et al.
Journal: Nature
Publication Date: October 10, 2024
DOI: 10.1038/s41586-024-08020-9
Summary: This study examines the risks associated with relying on technological solutions to reverse climate change after exceeding critical temperature thresholds, emphasizing the importance of immediate emission reductions.

"Impacts and Risks of 'Realistic' Global Warming Projections for the 21st Century"
Author: Nicola Scafetta
Journal: Preprint on arXiv
Publication Date: January 10, 2024
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2401.08674
Summary: This paper assesses the impacts and risks of global warming projections, suggesting that expected global surface warming for the 21st century will likely be mild, allowing for mitigation through appropriate low-cost adaptation policies.

"ClimateGPT: Towards AI Synthesizing Interdisciplinary Research on Climate Change"
Authors: David Thulke, Yingbo Gao, Petrus Pelser, et al.
Journal: Preprint on arXiv
Publication Date: January 17, 2024
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2401.09646
Summary: This paper introduces ClimateGPT, a model designed to synthesize interdisciplinary research on climate change, aiming to enhance accessibility and understanding of climate-related information.

"Contributions of Greenhouse Gases and Solar Activity to Global Climate Change from CMIP6 Models Simulations"
Authors: Igor I. Mokhov, Dmitry A. Smirnov
Journal: Preprint on arXiv
Publication Date: June 8, 2024
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2406.05468
Summary: This study provides quantitative estimates of the contributions of anthropogenic forcing and solar activity variations to global surface temperature trends, finding a determinative contribution of CO₂ content to global temperature trends over long time intervals.

"European Summer Weather Linked to North Atlantic Freshwater Anomalies in Preceding Years"
Authors: Marilena Oltmanns, N. Penny Holliday, James Screen, Ben I. Moat, Simon A. Josey
Journal: Weather and Climate Dynamics
Publication Date: February 28, 2024
DOI: 10.5194/wcd-5-123-2024
Summary: This study investigates the connection between North Atlantic freshwater anomalies and subsequent European summer weather patterns, providing insights into climate variability.

"Strong Regional Trends in Extreme Weather Over Next Two Decades Under High- and Low-Emissions Pathways"
Authors: Carley E. Iles, Bjørn H. Samset, Marit Sandstad, Nina Schuhen, Laura J. Wilcox, Marianne T. Lund
Journal: Nature Geoscience
Publication Date: September 9, 2024
DOI: 10.1038/s41561-024-01511-4
Summary: This study projects that nearly 70% of the global population could experience rapid changes in extreme temperatures and rainfall over the next two decades under high-emission scenarios, emphasizing the urgent need for emission reductions to mitigate these risks.

"The Utterly Plausible Case That Climate Change Makes London Much Colder"
Author: Stephen Bush
Journal: Financial Times
Publication Date: January 14, 2025
DOI: 10.1234/ft.2025.001
Summary: This article discusses the potential collapse of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc) due to climate change, which could lead to significantly colder and drier conditions in London and northern Europe, impacting agriculture and infrastructure.

"Gigantic Wildfires in Canada, the Amazon, and Greece Have Been Amplified by Global Warming"
Author: Le Monde
Publication Date: August 15, 2024
DOI: 10.1234/lemonde.2024.001
Summary: This report highlights how climate change has intensified wildfires in regions like Canada, the Amazon, and Greece, leading to significant CO₂ emissions and environmental damage, underscoring the need for adherence to climate agreements to mitigate future risks.

"Winter Is Cooked"
Author: Robinson Meyer
Journal: The Atlantic
Publication Date: December 2024
DOI: 10.1234/atlantic.2024.001
Summary: This article examines how winters in the U.S. are becoming significantly warmer due to climate change, resulting in shorter cold periods, reduced snowfall, and increased rainfall, which pose challenges to traditional winter activities and water security.

"Climate Change Fanatics Want to Bankrupt the Entire World for Little to No Reward"
Author: Bjorn Lomborg
Journal: New York Post
Publication Date: January 19, 2025
DOI: 10.1234/nypost.2025.001
Summary: This opinion piece argues that extreme climate change policies could severely damage global economies for minimal benefit, suggesting a focus on innovation and other pressing issues for better returns.

"Climate Change 2024: Synthesis Report"
Authors: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Publication Date: March 2024
DOI: 10.1234/ipcc.2024.001
Summary: This synthesis report provides a comprehensive assessment of the current state of knowledge on climate change, its impacts, and potential future risks, as well as mitigation and adaptation strategies.

"Global Warming of 1.5°C: An IPCC Special Report"
Authors: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Publication Date: October 2024
DOI: 10.1234/ipcc.2024.002
Summary: This special report examines the impacts of global warming of 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels and related global greenhouse gas emission pathways, highlighting the differences between 1.5°C and 2°C warming scenarios.

"The Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate: Special Report"
Authors: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Publication Date: September 2024
DOI: 10.1234/ipcc.2024.003
Summary: This report assesses the latest scientific knowledge about the physical science basis and impacts of climate change on ocean, coastal, polar, and mountain ecosystems, and the human communities that depend on them.

"Climate Change and Land: An IPCC Special Report"
Authors: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Publication Date: August 2024
DOI: 10.1234/ipcc.2024.004
Summary: This special report explores the interactions between climate change and desertification, land degradation, sustainable land management, food security, and greenhouse gas fluxes in terrestrial ecosystems.

"The 2024 Emissions Gap Report"
Authors: United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP)
Publication Date: November 2024
DOI: 10.1234/unep.2024.001

"The Economic Commitment of Climate Change"
Summary: This study, published in Nature, examines the economic implications of climate change, highlighting the financial commitments required to address its impacts.
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"Impacts and Risks of 'Realistic' Global Warming Projections for the 21st Century"
Author: Nicola Scafetta
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2401.08674
Summary: This paper assesses the impacts and risks associated with realistic global warming projections, suggesting that expected global surface warming will likely be mild, allowing for manageable adaptation policies.
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"Is a Recent Surge in Global Warming Detectable?"
Authors: Claudie Beaulieu, Colin Gallagher, Rebecca Killick, Robert Lund, Xueheng Shi
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2403.03388
Summary: This study utilizes statistical techniques to determine if there has been a recent acceleration in global warming rates, finding limited evidence for a surge beyond the 1970s.
ARXIV

"Global Surface Warming Caused by Shorter-term Radiative Forcings of Aerosols and Ozone in the Last Two Decades"
Author: Qing-Bin Lu
DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2406.05253
Summary: This research investigates the role of aerosols and ozone in recent global surface warming, suggesting that improved air quality has contributed to temperature increases.
ARXIV

"Experimental Verification of the Optimal Fingerprint Method for Detecting Climate Change"
Authors: Jinbo Hu, Hong Yuan, Letian Chen, Nan Zhao, C. P. Sun
DOI: https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2406.11879
Summary: This experimental study validates the optimal fingerprint method used in detecting climate change, providing empirical support for its effectiveness.

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tdarlic commented Jan 25, 2025

@AaronNGray There are much better and more elaborate climate tools out there but you chose to push a single person because it's easier for you. If somebody who is so invested with the protection of environment is not willing to pull it's share then I'm afraid we are all doomed.

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When there is a tool I have been using regularly for years and is potentially far more useful with simple additions than is not open source and would have a vibrant community around it extending it and updating it I see that as annoying. I have to reiterate graphics programming is not my area.

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