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Can you please open source the latest version of https://earth.nullschool.net/ people need it ! #144
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@cambecc why the silence on issues ? |
I've been silent because I thought the state of the repo was clear: frozen in time for posterity. I forked earth.nullschool.net from this codebase in 2015 and have no plans to merge back. I have been thinking to refactor this repo at some point to make it more generic and componentized, like you proposed in #143, but that idea remains on the back burner for now. You're welcome to hack away at your own fork of this repo, but the code currently running at earth.nullschool.net is intentionally closed. |
Thank you for replying. Would you please enlighten the unenlightened as to the reason that earth.nullschool.net code is not open source as we have a climate emergency and data and new representations and recording of of these resources are of primary concern to the climate change community as a whole. |
@cambecc Firstly, thank you for the project and keeping both the website available and the feedback form. One thing I don't understand is the mission. Here you have the legacy code readily available and at the same time the website is free-to-use which is based on the up-to-date closed source version. Considering you have been keeping it at this state for a while now, the mission is to give the world a useful and well-designed tool for environmental monitoring... exclusively on your platform. Ergo, it raises the bus factor concern; could the website continue to live in the event of your prolonged/ultimate absence? Unless you plan to commercialize the project, the closed source code falling under certain NDA, or it violates the license of certain software... I cannot rationalize the reason behind keeping it non-public and maintaining free-to-use website. |
@vazome @AaronNGray |
@tdarlic I agree, at the end of the day they are the sole owner and creator. This project has also inspired me to do something data visualization related. It's just rare for me to come across their line of reasoning, so it seems only natural to ask for their perspective. |
@cambecc @tdarlic THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. I dont know whether you are aware but the current state of play with the climate change situation and that it is near enough in a terminal state with regard to maintaining higher life on this planet. We have a very very small window left inwhich to perform action. I have studied climate change on a near enough daily basis rather than doing software engineering. I am a systems programmer and computer language researcher and designer and have studied the whole of the history of Type Theory in order to research the implmentation of my next generation language. I am not a graphics programmer despite knowing the theory from years ago doing vector based near realtime graphics of the globe is not something I would attempt to work on, and I don;t have time. We seriously need the instrumentation in place in order to know what is happening in the atmosphere in order to do a real time 24/7/52 climate and weather report on the internet. This is the best visualization system I have seen and use, and it could be so much more. What I am saying is if this is properly open sourced it would be picked up and worked on and extended by multiple programmers in service to climate experts requirements and would spawn a vitally needed ecosystem. If you are a climate change denier for vested or capitalistic reasons or acting like an osrtich or a lemming and want to become a dodo then thats your problem please dont make it mine. This situation is serious ! What follows is a list of climate change scientific papers and reports for your perusal. "The 2024 State of the Climate Report: Perilous Times on Planet Earth" "Overconfidence in Climate Overshoot" "Impacts and Risks of 'Realistic' Global Warming Projections for the 21st Century" "ClimateGPT: Towards AI Synthesizing Interdisciplinary Research on Climate Change" "Contributions of Greenhouse Gases and Solar Activity to Global Climate Change from CMIP6 Models Simulations" "European Summer Weather Linked to North Atlantic Freshwater Anomalies in Preceding Years" "Strong Regional Trends in Extreme Weather Over Next Two Decades Under High- and Low-Emissions Pathways" "The Utterly Plausible Case That Climate Change Makes London Much Colder" "Gigantic Wildfires in Canada, the Amazon, and Greece Have Been Amplified by Global Warming" "Winter Is Cooked" "Climate Change Fanatics Want to Bankrupt the Entire World for Little to No Reward" "Climate Change 2024: Synthesis Report" "Global Warming of 1.5°C: An IPCC Special Report" "The Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate: Special Report" "Climate Change and Land: An IPCC Special Report" "The 2024 Emissions Gap Report" "The Economic Commitment of Climate Change" "Impacts and Risks of 'Realistic' Global Warming Projections for the 21st Century" "Is a Recent Surge in Global Warming Detectable?" "Global Surface Warming Caused by Shorter-term Radiative Forcings of Aerosols and Ozone in the Last Two Decades" "Experimental Verification of the Optimal Fingerprint Method for Detecting Climate Change" |
@AaronNGray There are much better and more elaborate climate tools out there but you chose to push a single person because it's easier for you. If somebody who is so invested with the protection of environment is not willing to pull it's share then I'm afraid we are all doomed. |
When there is a tool I have been using regularly for years and is potentially far more useful with simple additions than is not open source and would have a vibrant community around it extending it and updating it I see that as annoying. I have to reiterate graphics programming is not my area. |
@cambecc Can you please open source the latest version of https://earth.nullschool.net/ people need it !
I need to be able to do animations from it to video and also add extra data sources and a 3D view of weather systems.
Its WebPacked so reverse engineering it is a nightmare !!!
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