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07 Feb 2024

Philipp Ahmann edited this page Feb 7, 2024 · 4 revisions

Roll call

* indicates TSC voting members

Host

  • *Philipp Ahmann

Attended this meeting

  • *Lukas Bulwahn
  • Pete Brink
  • Olivier Charrier
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Steve VanderLeest
  • *Gabriele Paoloni
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Christopher Temple

Regrets

Attended recently in the past

  • *Matt Kelly
  • *Kate Stewart

Topics & Notes

Check past action items

  • Details in the section on actions items below
  • Action items will migrate to github issues for upcoming meetings.

June workshop date and location

  • Format like last workshop for the formal part:
    • Start after lunch on first day. Full second day. Finish at lunch time on 3rd day.
  • Potential location may be in Lund (Sweden). Airport: CPH - Copenhagen
  • Topic not discussed yet is a "contribution day" (what is normally a hackathon)
    • documenting requirements, architecture and design could also be included.
      • Check the requirements from Zephyr and its fit to ELISA context.
    • Improve existing code pieces for Automotive or systems WG.
    • Improve ELISA tools.
      • CI improvements to generate documentation.
    • Bring up of new hardware/software.
    • Could be aligned with Eclipse SDV or SOAFEE.
  • Any dates not possible for TSC members
    • 11 to 14: F2F SW taskforce of ISO26262 3rd edition in Rom. (Gab affected)
    • 25 to 27: potential Bosch OSS conference (tbc.) (Philipp affected)
  • Candidates for workshop only (contribution day to be settled separately):
    • Week June 3rd to 7th (3 options)
    • Week June 17th to 21st (3 options)

Linux Features WG evolution

  • Alessandro and Vikas Gupta showed interest to follow up on the LFSCS working group
  • The TSC welcomes the volunteering of Alessandro as a lead of LFSCS and having Vikas as a co-host of the working group.
  • AI-Philipp: To establish link between Vikas and Alessandro before releasing it on mailing list to be aligned.

FOSDEM impressions from participants

  • The OSS project approach to Functional Safety presentation by Nicole & Philipp. Slides and recording are available.
    • Talk on main track with >200 participants in the audience.
    • OpenHW Group was interested in talking about additional reference hardware for ELISA
    • Some Automotive Feedback from Renault.
    • DKE (subgroup of German VDE) responsible for standards showed interest to learn more.
  • Safety and OSS gets mentioned by European Commission, SDV and policy makers.
  • SBOM and Cyber Resilience are important aspects popping up everywhere.

AoB

  • Check the location of RT Linux draft doc and if it can be placed in Linux Features WG folder on gdrive
  • Anyone came across https://xenomai.org/ as hard RT Linux fork
    • extensive changes inside the kernel.
    • PREEMPT_RT is (almost) completely mainline and it has a larger community as it seems. xenomai is an own fork.

Action items

0221130: AI: Discussion in the OSEP WG that we have a guide on how to review change management.

  • https://github.com/elisa-tech/orientation/issues/6 was opened Oct 19 2021 for that topic
  • https://github.com/elisa-tech/orientation/issues/4 is related but focuses on overall commits to github repos.
  • Also partially touched here: https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-automotive#contribution-workflow
  • Parked currently in OSEP, no clear date when to progress on it. Anyone else can also pick it up in case interested.
  • 20230322 - Has been parked, looking for a new owner.
  • 20230419 - See if Pete has bandwidth after EOSS. More background: the purpose is to have an overall approach to review work coming out of WGs. Steve is willing to participate and contribute and give feedback on work that’s already been done.
  • 20230503 - Topic proposal for the Berlin Workshop June 20th to 22nd
  • 20230906 - Continue this topic in Munich Workshop. Not actively touched in OSEP currently, as it is a topic for all.
  • 20230110 - Still put in backlog

20230726 AI-Matt: think over “funcParser_tool” and when ready, please provide github user to Min and consider a more descriptive name for the tool, so that its own repo can be created.

  • 20231213 - Matt is willing to integrate funcParser_tool with ks-nav. Matt needs to have a look at funcParser and see how it stands compared to ks-nav.
  • Alessandro already did a comparison between funcParser, ks-nav and calltree; Alessandro can sync up with Matt or the tool wg to figure out the next steps
  • 20230110: Tools WG discussion and check which parts of funcParser is useful and how it complements ks-nav. Sources are here: https://github.com/elisa-tech/Safety_Architecture_WG/tree/main/funcParser_tool
  • May make sense to also crosscheck with ctags.
  • 20240124: Matt in process in setting up tools before it gets on the agenda
  • 20240207: Summary from Tools WG is that there a some features which could be good in ks-nav. AS ks-nav is maintained and func_parser is not we see if something gets added to ks-nav and leave func_parser behind. Remaining AI is to mark the topics which are good for ks-nav and mark func_parser as deprectated.

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