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+# Universal Dynamic Language Tooling
+
+## Purpose
+
+`extism-js` is a hyper focused and not very flexible tool.
+It's simplicity has served us well, but my hope was that adding a new dynamic language
+would give us an opportunity to build a universal tool for this
+and establish some cross language conventions to make it easy for
+extism users (or us) to add new (or customize extisting) runtimes.
+Now that we're working on a python PDK, now might be a good time to do this.
+
+e.g: Imagine if someone wants to add a ruby pdk. We should be able
+to do that without creating new tooling to create and run these modules.
+Or another example which has come up, imagine if a user wants to customize our js runtime
+with their own rust or c code, they should be able to fork our runtime
+and re-use all our tooling and just publish their own runtime.wasm (essentially).
+This should work with our compiler and with extising SDKs with a simple config change
+(pointing to their custom runtime).
+
+This has a couple of additional benefits:
+
+1. The dynamic plugins will be orders of magnitude smaller as it will only be your code changes. You'll be able to cache the runtime in memory for the host app.
+2. We could make some development mode tooling that will make feedback loops in development much faster and a better experience.
+
+## Solution
+
+There are still some details here I'm unsure of, but how i'd like for it to work is something like this.
+What we're now calling `core.wasm` will effectively be a "runtime" (TODO: name pending as this is an overloaded term).
+We could publish and version official runtimes. e.g. to start-off with we might have `quickjs` and `cpython`.
+This should be publishable as plain wasm modules which both the tool, and the SDKs can fetch via url.
+We might publish variants of these with different packages or purposes. e.g. we might
+have a `runtime.development.wasm` with mode debug or development tools.
+Or we could also publish variants like, a cpython that has numpy built in, etc.
+
+
+The technical challenge mainly lies in defining the different modules we need and
+what their interfaces are and doing that in a language agnostic way. I suspect
+we can borrow from what we're already doing in our compiler toolchain with
+wasm-merge, but saving the binding til runtime. See my [Draft PR](https://github.com/extism/python-pdk/pull/8)
+in the python-pdk for a more concrete example.
+
+### Separated Modules
+
+Let me take a stab at what I think it would look like. First, what we are calling `core.wasm`
+will instead be say `runtime.wasm`. This will contain a couple things:
+
+1. The generic language runtime (e.g. quickjs, no application code)
+2. The extism language bindings (e.g. in quickjs we include the rust-pdk and some binding code)
+3. Common exports to invoke the runtime
+
+> note: we may also have imports here for host functions? or we may need an additional import shim? more investigation needed.
+
+We'll also have a `main.wasm`. This will be all the application code and will be the
+stuff that actually changes from plugin to plugin. This should be small
+
+### Module Interfaces
+
+These need a consistent interface to be interchangeable and for common tooling
+to be able to work with them (like wizen them, shim them, etc). The interface might look like this:
+
+`runtime.wasm` will have many imports (probably extism, probably wasi, etc),
+but will most importantly export 1 function: `__invoke`. This will do the invoke
+trick established in the [js compiler](https://github.com/extism/proposals/blob/main/EIP-009-js-pdk-interface-definition.md).
+
+I thinkt the above should work, though, we should consider if this is still necessary. What would be ideal is to have two exports like this:
+
+* `__eval`
+* `__evalByteCode`
+
+Each of these could take a pointer to memory where the code is. Many runtimes support
+evaluating both raw source as well as compiled bytecode specific to the vm.
+
+`main.wasm` (final name of the file doesn't matter) would work as expected. It would import the interface from the runtime:
+
+```
+$ wasm-objdump main.wasm --section=Import -x
+
+main.wasm:	file format wasm 0x1
+
+Section Details:
+
+Import[1]:
+ - func[0] sig=0 <__invoke> <- runtime.__invoke
+```
+
+It would finally export the extism func:
+
+```
+wasm-objdump main.wasm --section=Export -x
+
+main.wasm:	file format wasm 0x1
+
+Section Details:
+
+Export[1]:
+ - func[1] <count_vowels> -> "count_vowels"
+```
+
+And we should be able to run by linking them up dynamically:
+
+```
+$ extism call main.wasm count_vowels --input="Hello World" --link core=./core.wasm  --wasi
+{"count": 3}
+```
+
+### Tooling
+
+From here we just need a way to manage all this in a single place. Perhaps
+we can do it in the extism-cli. I don't think this can be written in go, but
+we might be able to manage it as a "tool" to the go program. so it could be
+a separate or linked program that's written in rust. But to the user, it should
+ideally look like the extism cli.
+
+I'll think a little bit more about what the experience should be. Ideally
+a plug-in author should just be able to do `extism compile`
+and not worry much about the underlying details.
+
+## Considerations
+
+### Wizer
+
+I'm a little confused as to how this will work with wizer. I suspect the way my current python experiment is working,
+it's wizening the core which is not what we want. [Javy](https://github.com/bytecodealliance/javy) seems to be able to do this
+so there are probably some answers there. Furthermore, perhaps supporting an `evalByteCode` path might lessen the need for wizening?
+
+### VMWare Workers Server
+
+There is also some prior art to be studied with [vmware workers server](https://github.com/vmware-labs/wasm-workers-server).
+They do something similar with the indepdent publishing of runtimes and dynamic linking. We may
+be able to borrow some tricks or some of the user experience from there.
+
+### Building Shims
+
+How will shim building work exactly? We could perhaps have each runtime builder create some kind 
+of program that can get the exports from the source code. But how will we distribute it? Could it be an extism
+plug-in?