Additional <lb/> at the end of (ostensibly) verse lines?

[joeytakeda]

I'm not sure what this is saying (from iseMV_F1):

 <lb type="tln" n="27"/>Would blow me to an Ague, when I thought<lb/>
 <lb type="tln" n="28"/>What harme a winde too great might doe at <g ref="g:longS">ſ</g>ea<lb/>

Why do we need to the two <lb/>s? What are the non-typed<lb/>s? Do they signal the line beginning for this edition?

[martindholmes]

I've always assumed the tln is canonical, and the other represents the linebreak in the current source document from which the editor is working.

[joeytakeda]

Yes this makes sense. But as far as I can tell, these new line breaks are just being automatically produced.

[martindholmes]

Isn't that because the original code used actual linebreaks rather than tags?

[telic]

Yes, the non-typed <lb/> are the lineation of IML as edited. These are the breaks that we will want to use for display and they may not consistently correspond to TLNs or QLNs even in the OS texts.

[telic]

The confusion would be lessened by including break="no" on the TLNs, but @JanelleJenstad specifically asked us not to do this. IIRC, she had concerns about readability of the TEI. It seems to me the readability problems could quite easily be solved by putting the lbs on their own line though, eg from MV_M:

<l>
  <lb type="tln" n="2" break="no"/>
  <lb type="qln" n="3" break="no"/>
  In sooth I know not why I am so sad,
</l>
<l>
  <lb type="tln" n="3" break="no"/>
  <lb type="qln" n="4" break="no"/>
  It wearies me, you say it wearies you;
</l>

[joeytakeda]

This makes sense to me, other than the @break. As far as I can tell, @break isn't an instruction to break or not -- definition from the TEI: "indicates whether or not the element bearing this attribute should be considered to mark the end of an orthographic token in the same way as whitespace."

[joeytakeda]

To be clear: this would only apply in the case of verse lines, correct? Is the editor's decision to add a line break in one place or another in prose significant?

[martindholmes]

@break is intended to assist tokenizers processing the text; it tells you whether a hyphen is intra- or inter-word.

[telic]

Untyped <lb/> are not relevant in modern prose lines (and the conversion removes them). In OS texts however, the editors lineation is always significant, in both prose and verse (and the default "uncertain" mode from the OC example).

[telic]

Yes, my confusion on the use of @break; that's a separate issue.

[joeytakeda]

Ah, I see. So, the <lb/>s in prose in OS texts reflect the lineation of the copy-text, which was originally recorded by actual linebreaks. That makes sense to me.