Popups are now way too intrusive, they block the rest of the screen and make it unresponsive

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Distribution

Linux Mint 22.1

Package version

Cinnamon 6.4.6

Graphics hardware in use

No response

Frequency

Always

Bug description

Everytime a popup comes up, the rest of the screen is disabled. This is a regression compared to previous cinnamon releases. There are use-cases, beyond #12597 why an experienced user may not want to lose access to the rest of their Desktop environment, just because a pop-up came up:

• VPN client requiring OTP password in popup, that would be copied from a separate app - I think these flows are completely impossible, unless someone is really fast and thinks ahead.
• Initiated system shut down (popup opened), but then realized they want to first close an app, or click a save icon - these may seem miniscule but it is UX annoyance, since they have to do 3 step (cancel dialog, click what they forgot, reopen dialog), instead of one.

In general this regression cripples multitasking. I can't watch a youtube video in the corner of my 4K screen just because a popup comes up from a different corner, which I may not want to deal with at the moment.

At the very least, this behaviour should be configurable (as in: easy to disable). I think even Windows allows UAC to be set less invasive...

Steps to reproduce

Open any popup, like initiating shutdown from the menu, or start SW update from Update Manager.

Expected behavior

The popup should not block the whole screen, the rest of the screen should remain interactive. Just like it was in previous versions of Cinnamon. Just like it behaves in Mate still today.

Additional information

For me lack of this is a deal-breaker on using Cinnamon in the long run.

[kogans]

Agreed, the new logout/shutdown dialogs are ANNOYING!
They also break lots of themes, not rendering the dialog at all except for the dimming and the text.
Please bring back normal dialogs - Cinnamon is not Gnome and that's the main reason why people use it.

[WhosyVox]

I have to agree. The fact you also can't move the modal dialogue has been frustrating from the start as well.

Additional feedback: under some Desktop themes, the modal displays as just white text. With the mentioned behaviour here, it makes the entire system seem like it's almost locked up. I don't know if that's down to a lack of GTK4 support or what, but is there no fallback theme on these?

[Secret-chest]

I also don't like the GNOMEfication of Cinnamon, starting with removing the animation settings, not having an option to change the volume step, and finally this. The main problem is that these dialogues are not windows.