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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Is SAF really Open Source
Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Is SAF really Open Source
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Mark,=20
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SAF is listed in our database as DOE approved for open source. The copyrigh=
t assertion is old and I was unable to find any records or correspondence ab=
out this software in the digital or hardcopy files. I have contacted the ol=
d copyright administrator to see if she has the hardcopy file and will get b=
ack to if she finds something. It is possible that LLNL handled the asserti=
on on their end and we just made a notation in our database, have you checke=
d with your IP office?=20
=20
As far as the license goes, we leave it up to the author of the software to=
determine which license they would like to distribute it under. We typicall=
y release our software under BSD.=20
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Please feel free to give me a call if you want to discuss.=20
=20
Meg
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Meg Davidson
Akima Infrastructure Services
Under Contract to Sandia National Laboratories
IP Management, BCI, and Business Development
505.845.7160
=20
=20
=20
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From: Miller, Mark C. [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:57 AM
To: Davidson, Megan <[email protected]>
Cc: Sjaardema, Gregory D <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Is SAF really Open Source
=20
Hi Meg,
=20
Your email to Greg says this...
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Greg,
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I found SAF ver. 2.0 (SCR#821). It was approved for open source distributio=
n on 8/25/2005. Here=E2=80=99s how it=E2=80=99s listed on the ESTSC site. Is it still a=
vailable for download somewhere?
=20
Thanks,
=20
Meg
=20
=20
However, see attached image of page on SciTech site...It specifically says =
it is NOT open source.
=20
Do you happen to know the license terms of the Open Source release? BSD, GP=
L, LGPL, something specific to SNL?
=20
Mark
=20
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Mark C. Miller, LLNL
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"In the end, we will remember not the words of
our enemies but the silence of our friends" - MLK
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n is old and I was unable to find any records or correspondence about this s=
oftware in the digital or hardcopy
files. I have contacted the old copyright administrator to see if she has =
the hardcopy file and will get back to if she finds something. It is p=
ossible that LLNL handled the assertion on their end and we just made a nota=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Under =
Contract to Sandia National Laboratories<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Davidson, Megan <[email protected]><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sjaardema, Gregory D <[email protected]><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Is SAF really Open Source<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/1230929-saf-sets-fields-parallel-scientific-data-mo=
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Is it still available for download somewhere?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">However, see attached i=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Do you happen to know t=
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