Espruino JavaScript
Patreon #129
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Posted at 2017-03-10 by Ollie I think this is a great idea @gordon. Good luck with it. |
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Posted at 2017-03-10 by oesterle Thanks for all you do, @gordon. Subscribed and tweeted!
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Posted at 2017-03-11 by @gfwilliams Thanks! This is great! It's really nice to wave up this morning and think that already there'll be some money coming in each month to help with Espruino on other devices :) |
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Posted at 2017-03-11 by OwenBrotherwood wow: those stats just went high. I only buy original boards :) and micro:bit just hasn't the memory As usual, no comment needed for above: but think about the LinkedIn Company Precense |
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Posted at 2017-03-11 by OwenBrotherwood Warning Will Robertson: https://www.patreon.com/espruino Edit: |
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Posted at 2017-03-11 by countxerox What's a wifi controlled Espruino logo kit? |
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Posted at 2017-03-13 by @gfwilliams Yes, I need to post some updates :) And yeah, I'll try and post that graph up too. The WiFi controlled Espruino logo kit is going to be a PCB with Espruino on it, an ESP8266, and bunch of LEDs - so not very useful, but maybe fun. Assuming anyone actually backs at that level I'll have to design one - hence the 3 months :) |
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Posted at 2017-03-13 by OwenBrotherwood OK: I am probably needing some esp8266 "because it is there": do you hold a little competition or something with "what I would like to have (within reasonable reason)"? It would need it's own thread though...could get out of hand, if it ever gets off the drawing board. Edit $66 of $500 Edit: |
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Posted at 2017-03-14 by @gfwilliams Yeah, other Patreon folks do votes on what to work on next. To a certain extent I already do that with GitHub and what gets requested on the forum - I think it's going to be hard to get right - I don't want to suddenly start ignoring everyone that's made Espruino what it is in favour of Patreon :) We'll see how it goes - I may well do something later, but I think for the moment it's more simple. |
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Posted at 2017-03-14 by @allObjects It is a challenging call to stay true to a creators long term goal, take into account 'the market', and the present imperfectnesses... The balance between driving a cause into new, expanded and next territories on an overall scale vs. just mending current 'pains' - 'needs' of users for a particular case - is a lot of 'thought works'. @gordon, we all appreciate that you are living up to these task... and be so accessible in the forum - often very, very basic questions... |
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Posted at 2017-03-29 by avanc One question regarding patreon: I will be charged every month an additional dollar VAT. But I wonder why I have to pay VAT on a donation? What is the difference compared to transfer money directly to Gordon? Does he have to pay the taxes in the second case? And how much of the money goes to patreon? |
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Posted at 2017-03-29 by @gfwilliams
Because it sucks running a business in the UK. I have to pay VAT on almost everything. Are you based in Europe? If not then you shouldn't have to.
Unfortunately I do, yes.
Patreon takes 5%, and there are some other transfer fees too. However even if you pay directly by PayPal, they take a percentage too. Unfortunately everyone takes their cut! |
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Posted at 2017-03-29 by avanc @gordon Thanks for clarification. Only to make it clear for me: On the other hand, if I pay you 5$ directly, you have to subtract UK VAT (20%) afterwards? Please understand me correctly, I want to make sure you get the most out of my money :-) |
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Posted at 2017-03-30 by DrAzzy Find his address and mail him paper money |
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Posted at 2017-03-30 by OwenBrotherwood I would dearly like to visit this great guy, shake him by the Espruino hand and possibly leave something in his hand: in the meantime, I just send a very small token amount and save up for the next Espruino gadget (wife effect is present: but she sees a happy daughter with Things We Make) |
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Posted at 2017-03-30 by @gfwilliams @avanc, yes, that's correct. Most places don't know what country you're in so I can't change the price to include VAT if needed, I have to charge the same amount regardless. For instance with Tindie I actually make 20% less on all purchases in the EU, because I have to pay 20% as VAT! @OwenBrotherwood thanks! Maybe I will end up in Denmark at some point - I guess it depends if I get invited anywhere to give a talk or not :) |
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Posted at 2017-03-10 by @gfwilliams
I've just launched a Patreon page, where you can help support my work on Espruino (if you want to!)
https://www.patreon.com/espruino
It's a bit like an ongoing KickStarter, where you contribute monthly and if I reach certain funding targets I'll commit to doing certain things.
Espruino is getting more and more popular, but only quite a small proportion of Espruino's users are using official Espruino boards.
From the start my intention was always to support as many boards as possible, but the realities of trying to pay myself a salary have meant that I've ended up having to focus on just the boards that I sell. I don't want to do that - I want to help make Espruino better on all boards, and if you contribute on Patreon you'll help me do that!
(You'll also get a little badge thing on the forum, and I'll start a Patreon-only area where I'll try super-hard to solve any problems you might have :)
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