[Bug/Support]: "Cannot determine URL from recipe" with many packages

[brabalan]

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Elpaca Version

Elpaca f83af38 HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD
installer: 0.9
emacs-version: GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 2, aarch64-apple-darwin24.1.0, NS appkit-2575.20 Version 15.1 (Build 24B83))
of 2024-11-07
git --version: git version 2.48.0

Operating System

macos sequoia 15.2

Description

After updating elpaca, I have many packages (including compat) that have the error Cannot determine URL from recipe. Here is what elpaca-logs shows after starting emacs (and doing C-g since updating transient blocks everything).

compat                         failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"compat\")") 00.144223
transient                      failed               User quit                                                                        62.844267
ef-themes                      failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"ef-themes\")") 62.940357
consult-denote                 failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"consult-denote\")") 62.987667
ebdb                           failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"ebdb\")") 62.993976
capf-autosuggest               failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"capf-autosuggest\")") 63.030963
pulsar                         failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"pulsar\")") 63.031567
vundo                          failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"vundo\")") 63.032086
doom-modeline                  failed               Failed dependencies: (compat)                                                    63.051180
queue                          failed               Unable to determine repo dir: (error "Cannot determine URL from recipe: (:source nil :protocol https :inherit t :depth treeless :package \"queue\")") 63.057467
citar                          failed               Failed dependencies: (citeproc)                                                  63.058426
citeproc                       failed               Failed dependencies: (queue compat)                                              63.059078
magit                          failed               Failed dependencies: (transient)                                                 63.074706
geiser-guile                   failed               Failed dependencies: (transient)                                                 63.101036

[brabalan]

As a workaround:

• I added the url of many packages that had :ensure t before (using the one from the elpaca/repos)
• I added (use-package compat :ensure (:host github :repo "emacs-compat/compat" :branch main)) so that compat can be installed
• I removed packages using queue, I still need to find the correct use-package for that

[progfolio]

Did you try updating your recipe menus via elpaca-update-menus?

[seblemaguer]

I am also facing the same issue with emacs-30. I didn't manage to ping down completely what is going on but when I run elpaca-manager (after running elpaca-update-menus) none of the elpa parts are showing (i.e., only melpa and org packages show)

• It seems that elpa is facing a 429 error: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/plain/elpa-packages

Just realised it seems to be a duplicate of #407

[brabalan]

Did you try updating your recipe menus via elpaca-update-menus?

I just tried it and it did not change anything (as I was back to a working state). I restored my previous config (without the explicit hosts) and it’s still working, but I don’t know if it’s because the error was transient or if the menu update did the trick.

when I run elpaca-manager (after running elpaca-update-menus) none of the elpa parts are showing

I see the NonGNU ELPA and the GNU ELPA at the end of the (long) list here.