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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature #780

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RalfJung commented Sep 3, 2024

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Some target features fundamentally change the ABI (such as switching between soft-float and hard-float conventions for passing float values). Enabling those features in a crate while linking against a standard library built without these features (or vice versa) is unsound. An example of this is building x86 code with -Ctarget-feature=+soft-float or -Ctarget-feature=-x87. For more discussion and context, see rust-lang/rust#116344. In rust-lang/lang-team#235, the lang team generally agreed that code built with the same target triple should be API-compatible -- this was not an FCP, just the vibe of the people in the meeting. (This can lead to an explosion of target triples, so long-term we might want to invest in an "ABI variant" system. But that system needs to come with extra checks to ensure soundness, and should IMO be separate from -Ctarget-feature.)

Similar to #779, there's little that can be done here other than just not letting people shoot themselves in the foot. We already often have separate targets for this distinction, e.g. x86_64-unknown-none as a soft-float x86-64 target. So I propose that we make it a hard error to toggle such features via -Ctarget-feature.

The way I think this should be implemented is by extending the feature "database" in compiler/rustc_target/src/target_features.rs. Currently this tracks which features we "know", and whether that classification is stable or not. Stable features can be freely used with -Ctarget-feature, #[target_feature] and cfg(target_feature). Unstable features warn when used with -Ctarget-feature, need a nightly language feature flag to be used with #[target_feature], and cfg(target_feature) is only ever true on nightly. Completely unknown features are still allowed with -Ctarget-feature so that LLVM features can be accessed directly, but we show a warning. I suggest we add a new class of "forbidden" features, which behave mostly like unstable features except they are also rejected in -Ctarget-feature. This also ensures that they will never be added as regular "known" features.

Custom target declarations can still freely use these features.

One question to decide is whether this should become a hard error immediately, or show some sort of warning for a while first.

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This is implemented in rust-lang/rust#129884 and waiting for review.

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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
bors added a commit to rust-lang-ci/rust that referenced this issue Nov 5, 2024
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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
bors added a commit to rust-lang-ci/rust that referenced this issue Nov 5, 2024
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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
github-actions bot pushed a commit to rust-lang/miri that referenced this issue Nov 9, 2024
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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang/rust#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang/rust#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
lnicola pushed a commit to lnicola/rust-analyzer that referenced this issue Nov 28, 2024
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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang/rust#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang/rust#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
antoyo pushed a commit to rust-lang/rustc_codegen_gcc that referenced this issue Dec 11, 2024
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mark some target features as 'forbidden' so they cannot be (un)set with -Ctarget-feature

The context for this is rust-lang/rust#116344: some target features change the way floats are passed between functions. Changing those target features is unsound as code compiled for the same target may now use different ABIs.

So this introduces a new concept of "forbidden" target features (on top of the existing "stable " and "unstable" categories), and makes it a hard error to (un)set such a target feature. For now, the x86 and ARM feature `soft-float` is on that list. We'll have to make some effort to collect more relevant features, and similar features from other targets, but that can happen after the basic infrastructure for this landed. (These features are being collected in rust-lang/rust#131799.)

I've made this a warning for now to give people some time to speak up if this would break something.

MCP: rust-lang/compiler-team#780
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