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"body": "When we were originally working on Alt-Svc, Patrick and I put a restriction on the Alt-Svc header field so that it couldn’t redirect clients to a different host.\r\n\r\nSince then, several people have pointed out that the requirement to have strong server authentication, as well as cache flushing, seems to contain the risk associated with doing this, and that the facility could be quite useful.\r\n\r\nSo, I’m suggesting we (re-) add the capability to the header."
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"body": "This isn't necessarily clear enough, particularly the bit about \"128 bit security level\", which is intended to encompass P256, but also 25519, which isn't quite 256 bits. More clarification is probably needed."
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