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um_callerid, um_regonlymsg: various cleanups #364
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um_callerid, um_regonlymsg: use allow_message for reverse auto-/accept
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um_regonlymsg: check source identified before scanning /accept list
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I don't think this is the right test for here - if you message someone who's currently +M then an auto-accept wouldn't be added, and once +M times out they won't be able to reply. The version of this part from #383 takes account of that.
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I think that if you have +M set, you should be around (and not just letting it time out while AFK), and equally if it gets dropped (because you're busy), you can always reset it. I also imagine the typical use of +M is such that it is set for a split second so a global/server notice can be pushed out and then cleared again. (Eg, I have an alias for OFTC's "god" mode that sets it, does the thing I want to do, and then clears it right after). I really don't think this is going to be much of an issue in practice.
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the typical usecase is any time staff are attempting to message a user for network-related things and they're +g, in which case the only thing that needs force is your initial messages. if they choose to respond, auto-accept makes sense for a back-and-forth of unpredictable duration
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Sure, so you set +M for your initial message, and then clear it right after, and when the user responds, auto-accept still kicks in with this change, because you are no longer +M
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why clear it when it'll time out all on its own
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Because you don't need it anymore and you should be carrying excess privilege for as short a duration as necessary? A simple client alias can handle the whole process for you, eg
/alias overridemsg umode +M; msg $0 $1-; umode -M
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this feels like seeking a problem to justify a solution. i dont think holding on to +M for a few minutes more than you need it is particularly a problem, same with override. real world usage would agree with me
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(especially because you can't foresee how long you'll need the powers)
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Clogging up (and potentially completely filling) a user's /accept list with auto-accepts that they often don't even know exist isn't a problem? Especially with relaxed caller-id, every person you message, even if they are capable of messaging you because of relaxed caller-id, will earn you an auto-accept that isn't even necessary.
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no, i don't think that's a problem, or at least don't think +M is anything to do with making that not a problem