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Update HTML-AAM to use title for description instead of name, when the name is prohibited #552

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aleventhal opened this issue Jul 2, 2024 · 8 comments
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Update HTML-AAM to use title for description instead of name, when the name is prohibited #552

aleventhal opened this issue Jul 2, 2024 · 8 comments
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I'm not sure I see anything to say that we can't do this in Blink, but I want to map the title attribute at least to the accessible description when the name is prohibited. Seems reasonable, right?
Perhaps we need to update this content:
https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/#accname-computation

As well as:
https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/#att-title
which says
"Either the accessible name, or the accessible description, or Not mapped (see Comments)."

I wish it explicitly said to use the title for the description, and not for the name, if the name is prohibited. This is quite a common situation.
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It also doesn't seem like an authoring error to use the title attribute on an element with a prohibited name. Seems like a reasonable thing to do.

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Following this would make external/wpt/accname/name/comp_tooltip.html wrong.
See also web-platform-tests/interop-accessibility#131, where this test can also break because it's on the kbd element, which has not requirement to be exposed in HTML-AAM.

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[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name
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Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
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[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name
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Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
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chromium-wpt-export-bot pushed a commit to web-platform-tests/wpt that referenced this issue Jul 9, 2024
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[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name
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Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
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chromium-wpt-export-bot pushed a commit to web-platform-tests/wpt that referenced this issue Jul 9, 2024
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[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name
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Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
Auto-Submit: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
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previous issue - #506

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spectranaut commented Jul 11, 2024 •
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Discussed briefly in triage: https://www.w3.org/2024/07/18-aria-minutes.html#t06

moz-v2v-gh pushed a commit to mozilla/gecko-dev that referenced this issue Jul 11, 2024
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Bug 1906766 [wpt PR 47044] - [A11y] Expose title as a description if …
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…the role prohibits a name, a=testonly

Automatic update from web-platform-tests
[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name

Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
Auto-Submit: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
Reviewed-by: Chris Harrelson <[email protected]>
Commit-Queue: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
Cr-Commit-Position: refs/heads/main@{#1324810}

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wpt-commits: 5f54392ca73bf60a7ab30314f76f86dde0b6777b
wpt-pr: 47044
i3roly pushed a commit to i3roly/firefox-dynasty that referenced this issue Jul 13, 2024
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Bug 1906766 [wpt PR 47044] - [A11y] Expose title as a description if …
642de44 
…the role prohibits a name, a=testonly

Automatic update from web-platform-tests
[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name

Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
Auto-Submit: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
Reviewed-by: Chris Harrelson <[email protected]>
Commit-Queue: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
Cr-Commit-Position: refs/heads/main@{#1324810}

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wpt-commits: 5f54392ca73bf60a7ab30314f76f86dde0b6777b
wpt-pr: 47044
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@scottaohara Should we close this one as duplicate and put the other one on the agenda?

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this one is on the agenda. we can discuss and then close one or the other after we talk about it.

sadym-chromium pushed a commit to web-platform-tests/wpt that referenced this issue Jul 18, 2024
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[A11y] Expose title as a description if the role prohibits a name
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Bug: 350528330,w3c/html-aam#552
Change-Id: I2a23c23d3c06b747056de88481e7ec472d545535
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5670975
Auto-Submit: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
Reviewed-by: Chris Harrelson <[email protected]>
Commit-Queue: Aaron Leventhal <[email protected]>
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@scottaohara scottaohara self-assigned this Jul 18, 2024
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assigned myself to work on this PR

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Discussed in today's meeting:https://www.w3.org/2024/07/18-aria-minutes.html#t06

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