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2024‐07‐26

Bruce Bailey edited this page Jul 26, 2024 · 6 revisions

DRAFT Minutes for meeting July 26, 2024

Attendance (11): Avon Kuo, Bruce Bailey, Dan Bjorge, Giacomo Petri, Francis Storr, Ken Franqueiro, Gundula Neuman, Mike Gower, Lori Oakley, Patrick Lauke, Scott O'Hara

Regrets: Alastair (advance regrets from Gundula for next two calls).

Announcements

Minor update to process documentation, distinguish better between softer thumbs-up and Review using GitHub mechanism.

Following standard agenda:

  • Review ‘For discussion’ items
  • Review ‘Drafted’ items (30 min), either:
    • i. move back to In progress, with more work to do
    • ii. move to Ready for approval, if there is general agreement the issue is sufficiently resolved
    • iii. leave in Drafted, if discussion was not concluded satisfactorily
  • Review issues closed and project items closed
  • Review ‘To do’.
  • Time permitting, items of interest to participants, including open discussions.

For discussion

Added "Duplicated text" as guidance to fulfil the 1.4.5 Images of Text success criterion in the Understanding Document #3773 may need refinement. Mike noted tension (in Understanding) between alternative function and equivalent function. Giacomo makes the case that it is problematic to assert that alt for 1.1.1 can be used to meet 1.4.5. Lori pointed out that duplicative text, visually or as a screen-reader user, is a poor user experience. Gundula argued that proposed technique has constructive use case. Patrick suggested "1.4.5 does not apply" as possible approach. Mike gives example of flowchart where there are words in the flowchart elements where not meant to be covered under 1.4.5. Patrick will revise.

Updating example in On Input Understanding within note #2984 and Changes to 1.4.1 Use of Color understanding #1788 will be addressed outside of the call.

Drafted

Clean up mentions of HTML4 and XHTML #3980 is bug fixes, looks good and has GitHub reviews and approvals.

3981

3986 closed as bug fix

1790

Update G65.html #3951 Scott asking for feedback on his phrasing. APG has been taken as WCAG requirement rather than guidance, and proposal expand the examples/example descriptions for G65 'providing a breadcrumb trail' to acknowledge the fact that a breadcrumb's current location can be a hyperlink.

Ready for approval

Drafted column

Open Discussion

Reflow

Still working from the Reflow scratchpad. Alastair and Scott are still added to that document. Scott is (and has been) reaching out to colleagues on the topic.

Nothing tagged as Reflow in GitHub issues is recent, but Understanding needs significant rewrite.

Current process approach is not progressing as well as we would like. Scott will create a new issue to surface the current work.

Process

From 3937 closed by 3938 and sent to AG for Approval. Reminder that if there is both an Issue an a PR, Issue is removed from Project Board. Mike to double check Project Board for this one and we need to double check that if process doc needs to be clearer.