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# Relationship with other projects | ||
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## Relationship with podman | ||
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It gets a bit confusing to talk about shipping bootable operating systems in container images. | ||
Again, to be clear: we are reusing container images as: | ||
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- A build mechanism (including running *as* a standard OCI container image) | ||
- A transport mechanism | ||
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But, actually when a bootc container is booted, podman (or docker, etc.) is not involved. | ||
The storage used for the operating system content is distinct from `/var/lib/containers`. | ||
`podman image prune --all` will not delete your operating system. | ||
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That said, a toplevel goal of bootc is alignment with the https://github.com/containers ecosystem, | ||
which includes podman. But more specifically at a technical level, today bootc uses | ||
[skopeo](https://github.com/containers/skopeo/) and hence indirectly [containers/image](https://github.com/containers/image) | ||
as a way to fetch container images. | ||
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This means that bootc automatically also honors many of the knobs available in `/etc/containers` - specifically | ||
things like [containers-registries.conf](https://github.com/containers/image/blob/main/docs/containers-registries.conf.5.md). | ||
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In other words, if you configure `podman` to pull images from your local mirror registry, then `bootc` will automatically honor that as well. | ||
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The simple way to say it is: A goal of `bootc` is to be the bootable-container analogue for `podman`, which runs application containers. Everywhere one might run `podman`, one could also consider using `bootc`. | ||
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## Relationship with Kubernetes | ||
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Just as `podman` does not depend on a Kubernetes API server, `bootc` will also not depend on one. | ||
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However, there are also plans for `bootc` to also understand Kubernetes API types. See [configmap/secret support](https://github.com/containers/bootc/issues/22) for example. | ||
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Perhaps in the future we may actually support some kind of `Pod` analogue for representing the host state. Or we may define a [CRD](https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/extend-kubernetes/api-extension/custom-resources/) which can be used inside and outside of Kubernetes. | ||
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## Relationship with rpm-ostree | ||
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Today rpm-ostree directly links to `ostree-rs-ext`, and hence | ||
gains all the same container functionality. This will likely | ||
continue. For example, with rpm-ostree (or, perhaps re-framed as | ||
"dnf image"), it will continue to work to e.g. `dnf install` | ||
(i.e. `rpm-ostree install`) on the *client side* system. However, `bootc upgrade` would | ||
(should) then error out as it will not understand how to upgrade | ||
the system. | ||
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rpm-ostree also has significant other features such as | ||
`rpm-ostree kargs` etc. | ||
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Overall, rpm-ostree is used in several important projects | ||
and will continue to be maintained for many years to come. | ||
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However, for use cases which want a "pure" image based model, | ||
using `bootc` will be more appealing. bootc also does not | ||
e.g. drag in dependencies on `libdnf` and the RPM stack. | ||
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bootc also has the benefit of starting as a pure Rust project; | ||
and while it [doesn't have an IPC mechanism today](https://github.com/containers/bootc/issues/4), the surface | ||
of such an API will be significantly smaller. | ||
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Further, bootc does aim to [include some of the functionality of zincati](https://github.com/containers/bootc/issues/5). | ||
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But all this said: *It will be supported to use both bootc and rpm-ostree together*; they are not exclusive. | ||
For example, `bootc status` at least will still function even if packages are layered. | ||
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## Relationship with Fedora CoreOS (and Silverblue, etc.) | ||
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Per above, it is a toplevel goal to support a seamless, transactional update from existing OSTree based systems, which includes these Fedora derivatives. | ||
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For Fedora CoreOS specifically, see [this tracker issue](https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1446). | ||
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See also [OstreeNativeContainerStable](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable). |