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Use images for all services #677
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I gave some thought to the For
We could do something similar for Enketo (use volumes instead of COPY directives in the dockerfile, specify the script from docker compose) but I don't see much advantage. For someone who wants to do their own orchestration, it makes no real difference as far as I can tell. They'll use the base image and then decide how they want to The tradeoff that I see is between making the base versions really clear in the docker compose file vs. keeping everything about a service more contained in a Dockerfile. I have a slight preference for the latter (status quo). @spwoodcock @tobiasmcnulty does that sound reasonable? Anything I might be missing? |
It's nice from my perspective to have all the configuration and start-up files needed by Enketo bundled nicely into its own image. Furthermore, as long as the Central install requires a package to be installed that's not in the base image, I don't think there's any way to get around it. |
I haven't tried this yet but I believe it should be possible to do an The only part that's not in the Enketo base image is the config templating. The reason it's not in there is to give flexibility as to how that's done based on the deployment strategy. For example, the default Central install uses a shared volume to generate and persist secrets but in a specific deployment context it might make more sense to generate the secrets and then persist them in whatever deployment platform's secrets repository and template the configs from there. |
Thanks for the quick replies!
Maybe I misunderstand, but in case this is the thought...please don't install packages during the container startup. Apt could fail or parts of the internet could be inaccessible (a real issue in our use case!), slowing or preventing the container launch. Even for people with fast and reliable connections, it leads to a (slightly) slower start, and confusing behavior when the container is executed with some other startup command and a package is missing.
Honestly I feel like what you have already is great. Startup scripts that modernize legacy applications by reading configuration from the environment provide real value. Sure, someone could sort out how to configure it by hand (and having these files in the image doesn't prevent that), but why bother when you've already done the hard part? 🙂 One nice-to-have might be to separate the startup script into its ENTRYPOINT and CMD components, so the command could be overridden while still getting the benefit of the configuration steps. But I can't say I've run into a need for that for this image yet, just raising it in case it seems useful! |
Ah yes, that makes sense. It was too half baked of an idea! We maintain the Enketo image so maybe we can just have it install gettext and then putting the files in the right place and doing the templating can be in the docker compose file. How does that sound? |
Sounds good to me 👍 Another option could be to add an additional container to the stack that has the gettext dependency, mount the required files, and run the command on start. The enketo container could have a Not ideal, but possible if the source enketo image cannot be modified! |
Oh, I missed this, and I can see why you might prefer to maintain only one Enketo image! Adding at least the If the configuration files are not in the image, we would need to mirror them in our helm chart. But I believe that's easily scripted and a small price to pay if we can run an official image directly. |
Possibly of interest: Enketo can be configured directly using environment variables. That might be most appropriate for your context.
The primary reason we took that work out of the Enketo image is because it felt like it overlapped with the direct configuration through env variables and because there's variation in what's defaulted vs. exposed for configuration across Enketo consumers. Central doesn't use the environment var based configuration because we wanted to specify a mix of defaults and templated configs and it felt nice to do that all in an Enketo-specific file. Do those seem like reasonable reasons? We can certainly revsit if not!
And here you mean the Central templated Enketo config, right? There is a base config with default values there but indeed the templated one is something Central-specific. Again, the reasoning is that for stock Central installs we have certain things we want to set as defaults and others we want to explicitly make configurable. |
Cool! I didn't know about the environment variable option in Enketo proper. I'll probably just mirror whatever you do here, so if it's a configuration file that sounds good, or if it's environment variables, that sounds good too! Thanks for talking through this, I appreciate it. |
Thanks so much for the good discussion! I'll let this simmer a couple days to see if any other thoughts come in. In the mean time, I'd also really appreciate thoughts on the versioning issue I've outlined at #678. Maybe someone knows of another project that builds images and publishes an orchestration file from the same repo? I wonder whether they use different tags for the images as for the orchestration file. Any ideas very welcome! |
#676 builds nginx and service images. The enketo and secrets services can use stock base images instead.
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