add aggregators section to merchants page. #2045
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Note: there is now trocador.app , whose main advantage over orangefren.com is that it does not use javascript - and the UX is better as swaps happen on the same website. |
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Hi there, any updates on merging this PR? |
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I think both 3 are very interesting services but it's disrespectful listing short running Aggregators on top of Swappers (exchanges) which supported this community for more then 5 years. Exchanges also have liability for customers privacy and provide actual service, invest large amount of funds in hosting and securing user data. Aggregators where swaps happen on site as "proxy" should be less trusted because they can actually observe customers deposits and in general it's lower privacy solution. Also in my opinion any service should be running for at least 1 year before being considered listed on getmonero.org website. Since Aggregators can easily add new exchange to their website minimum should be up to 2 years to avoid getmonero.org being involved with some kind of scam or rug pull. swapzone.io - 2 years (not sure how much relevant for monero community( If I can agree on anything that's listing kycnot.me, as it's most unbiased aggregators listing least/not based on monetizing model but good old community thing, has long track running record ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/pgcdae/kycnotme_a_list_of_nonkyc_crypto_services/ ) and show real privacy nature of swap services/exchanges but however below still Swappers (exchanges). Regardless is it majesticbank, stackwallet or rino, there should be much longer waiting and vetting period before service is listed on canonical monero website. |
I agree. |
All the swaps on SZ are custody-free, with no registration needed. Anonymity and privacy of each transaction are the integral components of the project concept.
For 2 years, Swapzone has been collecting the offers for $XMR swaps from vary reliable exchangers, each of which is thoroughly tested and reviewed. The stable work of partners has been proven by time - all providers have been working with us for at least a year. And all this time, users have been making informed choices with Swapzone. The increasing popularity of Monero on Swapzone only confirms the relevance of the listing for the community, so I kindly ask you to reconsider the idea of mentioning Swapzone in this section. Thank you! |
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Can you add tor and i2p addresses for those who support
example
orangefren:
http://h74rtjzibohtgaehqyvy3cquqrsgn3pyxxqzwiw3u7mxal6n66ra.b32.i2p/
http://rnwis2whetqcj4oknksnc5l24jbh33nflunifff3xtjjonnoxu3ld6id.onion/
trocador:
trocador.i2p
http://trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion/
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| centrexchangesp: If you prefer to use centralized exchanges, here is a list of renowned CEXes and swappers. Many more exchanges support Monero, we list here only a few reputable ones. | |||
| cexp: Centralized exchanges that offer exchanging Monero for national currencies and cryptocurrencies. | |||
| swappersp: Swappers let users exchange XMR for other cryptocurrencies. | |||
| aggregatorsp: Aggregators compare all exchanges at once and find cheapest, fastest or best rated exchanges. | |||
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Compare all Swappers*. ("All Exchanges" would imply it also checks cex and dex).
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My comment from year and half ago aged really well on this. Loss of funds is not something I can support, there must be liability for w/e sites you promote / work with. As an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1d8olsd/swapter_225_xmr_missing/?rdt=47940&sort=new Quick search on "swapter scam" https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/1bk3qde/warning_swapspaceswapter/ 200 usd https://www.trustpilot.com/review/swapter.io?stars=1 >10% bad feedback Swapter is still listed on Trocador and Orangefren but seems to be removed from Swapzone ( So we have to wait that Swapter pull 100 selective scams to be de-listed from all the aggregators ? ) Until recently there was warning on irc and still on reddit about Changelly which is listed https://swapzone.io/, it doesn't make sense providing traffic to Changelly. The list of same looks sites from same script and same feedback is not so small. https://www.trustpilot.com/review/exolix.com?stars=1 >10% bad feedback Listed on Trocador and Orangefren https://www.trustpilot.com/review/swapuz.com?stars=1 Listed on Trocador Who want to spend a bit more time can dig a lot more stuff. TLDR Bringing traffic and legitimacy to selective-scam sites on narrative of just "facilitating" the swap which obviously have history on "Loss of funds" is not something I would like to see on getmonero website. I am not against, just the aggregators need to clean the house and figure business model with liability where user can't lose it's funds. Points from my previous comment are still actual. |
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Added aggregators section to merchants page and added 3 providers for aggregators section;