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Minutes 07 Jul 2023
Paul Albertella edited this page Aug 10, 2023
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Host: Paul Albertella
Participants: Pete Brink, Leonard Hubner, Igor Stoppa, Raffaele Giannessi, Kate Stewart
Agenda: Workshop review & Safety Analysis of Telltale use case
- Paul talked about ELISA workshop and discussion of safety analysis approach
Presentation
- In particular, using the approach as a basis for collaboration with other WGs e.g. Learning from experience using STPA in other groups (Medical - OpenAPS, Safety Arch - inside the kernel)
- Medical - used STPA to drill down to find how Linux was being used to support the safety-relevant parts of the system
- Safety Arch - finding it hard because focus at a lower level meant very complex picture
Pete: Did STPA on OpenAPS find any flaws?
- Yes - had to backtrack a few times to get the full picture
- Used to direct analysis of kernel interactions
- Recorded in spreadsheets initially - converting to JSON
Change management / publication review
- Pete: Need to establish a set of criteria that we apply to review
- Quality and/or safety
- Paul: Planning to start with a lightweight peer review for submissions to GitHub repos, then a more formal review for completed documents
- Barriers to contribution - how to use GitHub, permissions
- Kate: Don’t want this to block progress
- e.g. If we require all review comments to be addressed, could be open to issues if an uninformed reviewer’s comments blocked merge
Use of outputs of STPA / Safety Analysis approach
- Can help to inform design
- Can be used to derive safety requirements for existing systems
- Could use Linux-based systems in the role of ‘prototype’ to analyse and derive requirements, which would be input to concrete system design
- Paul: I am currently working on something similar - a Linux-based OS as SEooC
Where do we get the requirements that are the foundation of the analysis?
- Can we do this for the Automotive WG use case?
Gab is interested in picking this up from the Safety Arch WG perspective as well.