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Improve main search design #1273
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`creators` is still missing, as it is an array and Meili does not allow to retrieve the exact match position there yet.
The `id` field that was requested for all items unfortunately made the types worse. By just requesting it individually for each item, we get better types and can get rid of lots of boilerplate code.
I will use this in an upcoming commit, and it also seems like an obvious addition, given our other video/series routes.
- We now always show 3 items, regardless of how many videos the series has. - This means sometimes dummy elements are shown, which use some CSS pattern. - The outline is wider and has a stronger color now. The "3 things behind one another" shape/image is an important pattern in our design language to mean "series". These changes make it more consistent and thus recognizable.
This contains a bunch of changes! I will just list the major ones: - The thumbnail is now left, the description on the right. This goes for all result types. - Realm results have an icon instead of a thumbnail(-stack), but the "result type" icon that all results had is gone now. - The three result types are now visually more distinct to be able to distinguish them at a glance. The info-section is still fairly similar, but the "image" section (left) is very different. - Series & Videos that only have a single host realm now show the realm path. Further, series with a single host realm now link to the series inside that realm instead of the direct link. - The result items don't have a border anymore. - For videos, the date is shown. - Thumbnails of video results are now bigger.
When `prefix` was empty, it would result in twice the same key.
As we already mentioned in the meeting just now, the icon for "realms"/pages is still up for debate. The one we currently use is a fairly generic one from our icon package. I am not a huge fan. So first I searched through Lucide icons to find another more fitting one, but couldn't find one that I liked. So I created custom icons and ended up with quite a selection of them. Unfortunately, none of them fully convince me either. Please let me know what you think! Here are all icons I designed, with the current icon as the first one. Please use the lowercase letter from the screenshot (e.g. (b)) to refer to icons. If you have ideas how to improve icons shown here or ideas for a completely new icon, please let me know. (Do keep in mind that I am sticking to the design guidelines of Lucide icons, which forces me to be super minimalistic -- for a good reason!) |
I think you made the right choice, Lukas, a) is the one I associate most with a website, even though it's not ideal. The improvement I suggested referred to it being very small and embedded in that grey circle. Why not use the original icon? Cf. And looking at this fake screenshot, shouldn't the video preview be a little smaller, closer to the "series" symbol? |
PS: All in all, I like the improvements a lot and I didn't come across many crammed timelines in my tests only just now. |
Again, if you have ideas how I could make an icon similar to (a) but better, please tell me.
This is on purpose to make it easier to distinguish the three kinds of results at a glance. We discussed this on 2024-01-17: there we talked about adding series to the main search. And while it isn't explicitly written in our protocol, we concluded that if items are mixed, they need to at least be very easy to distinguish. And I actually do like it a lot better that the three different kinds of results are so different.
That particular video is from 2010-01-22, so it's 14 years and 9.5 months ago, which gets rounded up to 15. But re main point: for one, you can hover over the "15 years ago" to see the exact date. But secondly, I get your point, I am also sometimes annoyed by these relative dates. They can be handy as well though, especially when you have lots of "somewhat recent" videos. We can certainly change this though, for example everything that's longer than 6 months ago is shown as explicit date? 🤔 This would affect more than the search, and expecting more search related discussion, I created a dedicated issue for this discussion: #1274 |
Yummy, yet another discussion about a date format ... |
Do you think size is the main factor in distinguishing these? |
PS: I know, the draft looks terrible. |
I'm a bit confused why everyone is trying to redesign the "circle with icon" for pages. What's the actual problem with it? Can someone put that into words for me? Do you think it looks bad? Do you dislike it looking different from the other results? As an aside, YouTube also uses a smaller circle for channels to distinguish result types: |
As stated above, I do not see a need to change the current solution (circle with icon) and I would suggest to stay with it. |
Thanks for "Hide mobile virtual keyboard when pressing virtual "enter" in search", I saw that as well but was too tired to add another ticket. |
I talked to our designer earlier today and changes some things appropriately. There were no major changes, just polish. I also fixed some bugs or bad UX, mainly related to narrow screens. In case you're interested, these are the changes from the design review:
Here are some more points from the review:
Finally, regarding the highlight color (the background color of highlighted text snippets): she suggested going with grey, which I now changed. This has the advantage of making the result look less noisy and chaotic. It also means we don't have to make that color configurable. She went even further and suggested removing the highlighting completely, asking (all of us) whether it is actually useful when searching. "YouTube also does not show this, it only matters that the relevant result is at the top". This leaves us to decide between these three options:
What do you think? Apart from this highlighting question, I think there are no open discussions anymore, correct? (I assume the word of |
Generally, I try to accept what the experts say, so consider these part of my regular nagging:
Other than that, I see the improvements, so please thank her for these. |
BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE SHE WAS FINE WITH THE TINY CIRCLE. |
Even experts are just humans, so we can still discuss everything. I didn't want to shut down any discussion here.
Yes, I know what you mean. I was hesitant at first too, but was convinced by: that information is not the most crucial one, most people will just look at the thumbnail and title. And YouTube uses the exact same font size for the small text in its search results.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. By "highlighted" you mean the slighter brighter background color? But yeah, doing that wouldn't be super trivial and I'm not sure if it's really worth it? Or should we consider removing the "brighter background" effect on mobile completely? When scrolling, I sometimes enable the effect on items I happen to tap on for scrolling, maybe this is what bothers you? Disabling this for mobile should be rather easy.
Does it bother you that much? :D Increasing its size a small bit shouldn't be a problem I guess. But it looks completely fine to me, so I cannot emotionally understand your point.
Ah right, we didn't talk about that. Same here: how much does it bother you? So the thing is: some pattern are vastly simpler to implement compared to others, and it doesn't really have to do with their "visual complexity", i.e. the implementation complexity is not intuitive. I took my pattern from this page (the pattern there are appropriately licensed) to save some time, as implementing my own pattern idea would take more time. And even from that page, some patterns are rather complex, implementation-wise. I can certainly try implementing a repeating Opencast logo as pattern (that would be an interesting challenge), but I'm not sure if it's the best use of time... |
For the sake of efficiency, I'm not going to repeat my arguments against the tiny, deviant circle though I would like to stress they are rational, not emotional. My comment was. As for the background, I wouldn't want you to invest substantial time, but it seems a little futile to ask for feedback and not present alternatives: Are there grey options that are easy to use? |
Didn't mean to imply you only brought emotional arguments. I just tried to say that I don't share your aesthetic feelings regarding it. However, after re-reading this whole PR thread once again, I am still honestly confused what the arguments against it are. The closest thing to a reason I found was "the reason for mentioning the circle is that it's not "different" in the way you want to distinguish similar search results from different domains, it's visually 'outstanding', but not in a good way", but this is also just a statement without explanation or reasoning. Sorry, I really don't want to argue against you, I'm just honestly really confused at this point :D But, taking your "sake of efficiency" to heart, I just made the circle and icon a bit larger. I hope that fits the compromise that was mentioned before.
Changing the colors of the patterns on the linked page is super easy. So you can suggest patterns from there. Clicking on the patterns even lets you select colors yourself (on the webpage) to preview how it would like. Patterns with only two colors are slightly preferred as that allows us to have a lower contrast pattern, which is nice since we don't want it to be too attention-grabbing. For reference, these would be the colors I'd use (for light mode):
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Not sure this helps, but I wouldn't want to leave you in that deplorable state: To me, the idea of including webpages in search is odd to start with, because "video portal", not "multimedia portal". Plus, I don't expect to see many webpages to hold relevant content beyond the videos they feature. While this might sound like an argument in favor of an "outstanding" symbol, it actually breaks the "harmony" of the search results and their respective symbols in design terms: While harmony is a general term, it can be translated to cohesion and uniformity in design: You wouldn't use 99% Lucide icons and 1% Feather, would you? So don't be surprised I'm against 1% circles when 99% of the icons are rectangular. |
You want to got full Escher? Or are we too square for that? |
Escher lets goooo I like the overlapping cubes, I can try that tomorrow. The graph paper I find unfitting. Thanks for the explanation of the circle problem. Regarding "pages in a video portal", you'll be happy to hear that I have plans of merging pages with other results if the page has no content, except the other result. So for example, most pages only have one series on them. In that case, we don't want two results (one for the page and one for the series). So we will only show the series then. I think that will already get rid of most page results, so that most users will never even see them. Can you still live with the now slightly bigger circle for the time being? In my mind the circle vs squares is not too bad, e.g. YouTube does that too. |
I can certainly live with that. Not sure whether I can live with the constant reference "YouTube does that too" though ... |
@dagraf @sc-lmu Whats your opinion on the highlighting? Option 1, 2 or 3? And if you have any other remarks, let us know. Would try to merge this soon. |
Sorry for the late reply, was out sick a few days. As for Highlighting - I slightly prefer option 2, but can very well live with all three. Thanks! |
I also prefer option 2. |
I changed the pattern to the cube pattern now. Note that it is very low contrast on purpose. It should be barely more than just some color. We don't want to draw attention to it, just give the eyes a hint of something not-boring. With everyone saying the grey highlighting is fine or even preferred, I will also leave that. So I think there are no blockers or open discussions anymore. That means Ole can start reviewing the code and then this can be merged. |
Thanks for the "cube-thingy", definitively an improvement. |
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No need to change anything, as usual I didn't see any blockers. Just very few and unsubstantial (always wanted to use that word) typos and a comprehension question.
Oh and of course I did a bunch of testing as well during the review, everything appears to be working splendidly.
This PR improves the whole main search page in various ways. Most important points:
This PR is a draft because I still want to do this:
Potentially change the "realm" icon-> NoMake highlight color stronger-> See some comments belowIn a separate, follow-up PR I still plan on doing these search-related things:
Finally, filtering is still missing, which deserves a PR on its own.
Feedback is very welcome!
Fixes #470
Fixes #1066
Fixes #1065