Nov 18, 2024 ‐ 16:00 UTC
Host:
- Philipp Ahmann
Participants:
- Sebastian Hetze
- Daniel Weingaertner
- Nicole Pappler
- Alfred Strauch
- Roberto Paccapeli
- Gabriele Paoloni
- Steven Carbno
Regrets:
Attended Recently
- Kate Stewart
- Walt Miner
- Karen Bennet
- Guy Lunardi
- Andreas Bartelt
- Thomas Mittelstädt
- Stewart Hildebrand
- Olivier Charrier
- Previous meeting notes: https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/wiki/Nov-11,-2024-%E2%80%90-16:00-UTC
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AI-Sebastian: Involvement of DIN can also be interesting. Sebastian will take a first contact.
- Meeting postponed, waiting for re-scheduling.
- AI: Invite the epam people to tell a bit about their work and planned activities.
- Text brought from gdoc to github wiki md file: https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/wiki/Software-Quality-Good-Practices-in-Open-Source-%E2%80%90-Proposal
- Linux Foundation Europe follow up Nov 12th
- Participants: Gab, Daniel, Sebastian, Philipp, Kate, Timo (Nokia), Mirko (LFE), Esther (LFE)
- Write specification as a base for a standard. JDF (Joint development foundation) can a place for it.
- Mirko can do the JDF introduction.
- A lot of work, but ELISA alone does not bring the workforce needed
- Depending on project setup one way can be to spend money to hire a contractor
- Is a technical or a funded project considered?
- For public funded projects LFE can support in leading a project, but we need to find a the right grant.
- Standard path for projects in LF:
- Describe development scope and goals of the project
- Find 5 interested companies
- Industry partners so far: Red Hat, Etas/Bosch, Nokia, AlketoMetis
- Members of Eclipse Process SIG may also be interested. (We present this b/o December)
- Second step: Academia and NGO (especially when targeting pfp)
- LF can do PR and announcements to find additional participants
- Next steps:
- Formulate deliverables
- Write down development approach
- Estimate project size (e.g. 3 dedicated people or will it be 10 or more)
- This has also impact on the type of project
- Have a clear goal
- E.g.: "Propose a de facto standard for open source quality approaches"
- Clear and crisp goal is needed for a JDF proposal.
- Describe what we want to announce
- Name critical key participants (e.g. Etas, Red Hat, Nokia)
- Consider a survey via LF to find interested parties and check their willingness to contribute.
- Gab drafted a first gdoc to work on the LFE requests.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uzp4-mAAOd9uMhyKx5Vaa0C8Mq5w1IxhHFAgyE0I9p0
- When the doc is "good-enough" the content should be spread via the mailing list to find interested party.
- Check original version of the first proposal as it includes objectives and work packages which may be useful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AR4JtW7tBtqUsWgtxANyGiexpLBywu7nPLlMm6RPzPI
- Discuss with Eclipse SDV Process SIG
- Re-scheduled from Nov 18 based on Eclipse SDV participants request
- new meeting will take place Dec 2nd 14:00 UTC
- explain agenda to Eclipse SDV process SIG on Monday 25th in Eclipse meeting https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/sdv-wg/sdv-sig-automotivegradeos/meetings/-/blob/main/MeetingNotes.md
- planned agenda:
- Open Source Good Practices Standard and OSS processes supporting safety
- Funding for such an activity (like pfp)
- Relation between ELISA Systems WG and Eclipse SDV Automotive Process SIG
- (Eventually: S-CORE middleware stack and AGL to create a CI system including SBOM creation)
- Analysis on ISO26262 and how it can or cannot be applied to the Linux Kernel
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ELISA Systems WG builds could be executed on ARM servers as a Qemu image
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ARM and their partner consider a wider scope than the ELISA CI
- incl. Analytics, AI, Virtual Hardware, and more.
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Initial sketch to map ELISA CI parts
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Philipp will have another follow up with ARM today, after this meeting.
- Next week will be special meeting: ELISA meets Eclipse SDV Automotive Process SIG!